Leung Sheung was 30 years old when he met Yip Man. He weighed 200# and had been doing Choy Lay foot and Dragon style for approx. 20 years and teaching for the past 10 years. Yip Man weighed 120# and was 50 years old. After meeting with Yip Man, Leung Sheung turned over his class and moved lived with Yip Man for the next 6 years. They trained everyday.
Does anyone on this forum know anything else about the great grandfather of my kung fu that they would like to share??
Some may see this as the wrong sort of thing. I am looking for any insightful info on Leung Sheung. Also, some may interpret this as a comment on lineage (as usual) but if you look closely this is a comment on wing chun, and its ability…
red5angel- You supposedly are in the Kenneth Cheung line.
Your sigung, his class mates and their students are the best source of information. Why not just ask them? David Wiiliams in his Planet Wing chun also has some information.Simple.
Yep, they are being probed as well. I am helping out some people to track down info and David may be one of them actually. We figured some of you guys may have some info as well so I tapped this resource.
r5a - Let me once again pointing out that Yip Man did, in fact, have a half-dozen or so students in Foshan in the early 1940s, 8 years or so before beginning to teach Leung Sheung and the rest in Foshan. Of those half-dozen or so, Lun Gai sifu (the youngest) is still around and teaching in Foshan.
There was a story floated by some of Leung Sheung’s students in HK last year which seems factually difficult to resolve, but if you’re interested, shoot me an email and I’ll forward it on to you (for the funny file, if nothing else).
Originally posted by reneritchie There was a story floated by some of Leung Sheung’s students in HK last year which seems factually difficult to resolve, but if you’re interested, shoot me an email and I’ll forward it on to you (for the funny file, if nothing else).
I was on a group tour with Ken in 1999 when we met Lun Gai. We spent a good amount of time with him one day, including dim sum then dinner that evening. He demonstrated some of his sets; some of the advanced students in our group offered their demonstrations as well. I do not know if another Leung Sheung group visited him since then, but indeed ours did that year.
Many Wing Chun people have met Lun Gai in recent years, recognizing his name in several Latinized variants (Lun Gai is the one printed on the back of the business card he gave me). I don’t know personally of other Ip Man students in Foshan, but I can verify Lun Gai at least.
Originally posted by diego
[B]Due Respects but which one is it.
LS liked IpMan and wingchun since he was young and sought ip out
or ip laughed at LS’s bakmei class they fought then ip taught?.
two totally differant storys ones a happy drama the other actiondrama:confused:
peace [/B]
So Wich One.
I’m sorry to shatter peoples realitys and if its to much agianst your monthly fees curriculum:D you can alter the truth i just want to know just like i want to know is the sky really blue or is it reflecting?. SORRY to bring up reality in this forum, but if it offends some of you this doesnt have to be answered and we can get back to make believe
PEACE
So Wich One.
I’m sorry to shatter peoples realitys and if its to much agianst your monthly fees curriculum:D you can alter the truth i just want to know just like i want to know is the sky really blue or is it reflecting?. SORRY to bring up reality in this forum, but if it offends some of you this doesnt have to be answered and we can get back to make believe
PEACE [/B]
Actually sort of both. Leung Sheung had heard of Wing Chun and Weng Chun as a young man and was interested in learning the art. He also as an experienced teacher in martial arts (choy Lay fut, Dragon style and Bak Mei) tried his hands against Yip Man. Yip Man quite easily had total control over him. Proof enough of his skill in Wing Chun Kuen. Leung Sheung ceased teaching his Bak Mei class and devoted his time for the next 6 years living with Yip Man and learning from him.
Now certain people have written rather dramatic versions of said events which are quite interesting in light of their not having been even started in Wing Chun at the time the 2 men (Leung Sheung and Yip Man) met.
Lun Gai was the youngest and the last remaining. Kwok Fu, who was in his 80s, passed away a few years back, I believe. The others passed away over the previous years. I’ve heard that Lok Jai was among the most talented.
I train most weeks with a couple of guys under the Lun Gai lineage, they claim lineage ultimately to Yip Man but through Lun Gai - Very interesting conversations occur when we compare my Hong Kong Yip Man WC to their Foshan Yip Man WC -
As soon as you get past the differences in the forms and terminology the principles are pretty much the same. - Definitely from the same source IMHO.
