kungfu vrs bjj old clip

[QUOTE=Jay’s Camp;782443][SIZE=“1”]So True!

In fact JFS is a good example, Master of everything (including mouth boxing), and ability of NONE![/SIZE]:D[/QUOTE]

Can you say creepy non sequitur vaginal bleeding?

[QUOTE=Jay’s Camp;782443][SIZE=“6”]So True!

In fact JFS is a good example, Master of everything (including mouth boxing), and ability of NONE![/SIZE]:D[/QUOTE]

Aren’t you being a little rough on JFS? He knew how to quit quite well!

Wasn’t his Five animals from some sort of Kempo line? If I remember correctly it was, which means it’s not Kung Fu, it’s some sort of Kempo creation.

[QUOTE=1bad65;782463]Aren’t you being a little rough on JFS? He knew how to quit quite well![/QUOTE]
can you say creepy collecting of vaginal bleeding?

Look guys, win or lose, he didn’t display anything that was familiar as a kung fu style. A few kicks, a few spins, but nothing that displays signatures of a style.

And yes, we can tell.

He did win matches too, it isn’t like he didn’t . Whatever he was doing.

Again, are you people going to continue making this into the Kung fu sample 0f ages?

[QUOTE=SifuAbel;782473]Look guys, win or lose, he didn’t display anything that was familiar as a kung fu style.[/QUOTE]

Nor did JFS. So does he not do Kung-Fu?

[QUOTE=rogue;782428]Now that’s so stupid a mentality it would even make a TMA grand master blush.[/QUOTE]

Actually, that is very much in line with what a TMA instructor WOULD do to a former student who decided to use what HE taught him against his own school.

[QUOTE=tattooedmonk;782427]Did he decide after this fight or after the UFC fight?? He looked worse in the UFC fight.IMHO

He is no kung fu expert. He said he was five animal kung fu.He does not really represent kung fu IMHO.

He does not have to be an expert to compete.

He was billed as a five animals kung fu expert.

Which you can see from the pre fight warm up and profile he was nothing of the sort.[/QUOTE]

many of the guys back then were billed as ‘expert’. van cliffe was as well. So was the wing chun guy. I am guessing that was the promoters / announcers doing, not the actual fighters.

regardless of what you saw, he has a better record than any other known cma guy in the mma world, with over 30 wins to his credit.

[QUOTE=SifuAbel;782473]Look guys, win or lose, he didn’t display anything that was familiar as a kung fu style. A few kicks, a few spins, but nothing that displays signatures of a style.
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a knee to his opponent’s face. The position he is in while doing it resembles “golden rooster stands on one leg” he actually has a pic of him landing the technique on his site and has it listed as a crane technique.

[QUOTE=SevenStar;782592]a knee to his opponent’s face. The position he is in while doing it resembles “golden rooster stands on one leg” he actually has a pic of him landing the technique on his site and has it listed as a crane technique.[/QUOTE]

I though that was “dog urinates on hibiscus”…

I though that was “dog urinates on hibiscus”…

No, you have that one misplaced.

It looks more like the fabled technique called “mongoloid r@ping the snow leopard.”

[QUOTE=SevenStar;782588]many of the guys back then were billed as ‘expert’. van cliffe was as well. So was the wing chun guy. I am guessing that was the promoters / announcers doing, not the actual fighters.[/QUOTE]

The UFC took the best qualified of the guys who applied to be in the show. On the early UFCs, they simply put ads for fighters in the popular MA mags of the time. I think it was not until around UFC 3 that they received over 100 applications. Many of the well known martial artists of the day had way too much to lose to enter it. Emin Boztepe, Frank Dux, ‘Bonecrusher’ Smith, and Ernesto Hoost were a few of the guys who actually received invites guaranteeing them a spot in the UFC who declined.

[QUOTE=SevenStar;782592]a knee to his opponent’s face. The position he is in while doing it resembles “golden rooster stands on one leg” he actually has a pic of him landing the technique on his site and has it listed as a crane technique.[/QUOTE]

If thats all it takes, then EVERYBODY was kung fu fighting. :rolleyes:

yeah, but regardless, is that not a direct application of the stance in combat?

[QUOTE=SevenStar;782719]yeah, but regardless, is that not a direct application of the stance in combat?[/QUOTE]
For the purpose of making it a siganture…
Being that it could be used for quite a few things, that several styles have a knee lift and that the way he got there may or may not have been the same, no.

Its not at all about individual techniques. Bouncing around and doing spin kicks is more TKD than CMA.

[QUOTE=SifuAbel;782707]If thats all it takes, then EVERYBODY was kung fu fighting. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Were those cats fast as lightning?

woh ho ho hoooooooooooooooooo…

all i know is royce still hits and swings his punches like a bei.tch

[QUOTE=msg;782832]all i know is royce still hits and swings his punches like a bei.tch[/QUOTE]

Alot of the Gracies still have that ‘BJJ is the best’ attitude and really dont cross-train enough.

Renzo is the best one due to his willingness to incorporate other arts into his ‘game’, IMO.

style vs. style

I see clips like this all the time. to me if a bjj master is rushing you to bring you down, the last thing I would do is go straight back in a line like this guy did and try to strike him. I firmly believe either a judo style throw, you know he pushes you pull, or a jujisu or aikido arm or wrist lock would serve someone better, than just going straight back. Try to get behind him, around him, don’t go in a straight line back, what does everyone else think?