[QUOTE=TenTigers;1120371]yeah, I’m just saying, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Too many people have this black or white attitude. Either he fought in the cage, or he has no useful knowledge.
Well, I guess this is fine for some, but they miss out on many opportunities in their lives.[/QUOTE]
nope but showing someone something that you have never tried in a real enviroment and saying those that do do it wrong is a bit rich, as you say theres a reason they roll their sghoulder up, which hes not doing in his no telegraphed punch
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1120359]Every coach I know HAS done his chosen sport, just like every MA teacher I know HAS done his chosen MA.
They may not h ave competed at a high level or even at all, but ALL of then HAVE experience in their chosen sport.
I don’t know Marc but I am sure he has more than enough experience IN HIS Sport to teach it.
As for Cus and Angelo, they did fight, you don’t box without fighting in their day.
They may not have had impressive records, but that doesn’t take away from their amazing teaching ability.[/QUOTE]
yep, and lamone teaches the grappling aide of MMA< no one goes to him to learn striking for MMA, e is a specialized teacher (not to mention an idiot)
[QUOTE=Frost;1120491]nope but showing someone something that you have never tried in a real enviroment and saying those that do do it wrong is a bit rich, as you say theres a reason they roll their sghoulder up, which hes not doing in his no telegraphed punch[/QUOTE]
He was wrong to show it, and it was also just wrong. He was creating a strawman boxer to put down. Protecting your head with your shoulder requires no such telegraphing.
[QUOTE=Frost;1120323]nope unless you can show it in action its useless, [/QUOTE]
So, you cannot fathom why not telegraphing your attack can be useful, unless you see it in a fight? LOL!
[QUOTE=Frost;1120323]principles like that are great, ever wonder why you dont see fighters like kimbo using methods like that…[/QUOTE]
Well, Kimbo was interested in finding out about them and since he has had more fighting experience than you will ever have, then perhaps you should take a page out of his book?
By the way, not telegraphing your moves is part and parcel of Wing Chun (probably all other kung fu styles, each in its own way, of course). Why do you think that short range power is emphasized in WC and similar styles? Well, part of it has to do with being “invistible” when in short range. I was always taught not to telegraph my moves by a sifu who has used WC in real fights - and no there are no streetfight Youtube videos of him…LOL
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1120963]So, you cannot fathom why not telegraphing your attack can be useful, unless you see it in a fight? LOL![/QUOTE]
nope im saying show what you are talking about against someone trying to take your head off…then you will see why it doesnt work like that. Go on show me you doing this in a fight…should be easy afterall our superior wing chun style has it…
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1120963]
Well, Kimbo was interested in finding out about them and since he has had more fighting experience than you will ever have, then perhaps you should take a page out of his book?![/QUOTE]
how dense are you, kimbo was on the set of a film, the star was talking bull and kimbo was too nice to do anything but smile afterall whos going to upset the talent?
[QUOTE=Hardwork108;1120963]
By the way, not telegraphing your moves is part and parcel of Wing Chun (probably all other kung fu styles, each in its own way, of course). Why do you think that short range power is emphasized in WC and similar styles? Well, part of it has to do with being “invistible” when in short range. I was always taught not to telegraph my moves by a sifu who has used WC in real fights - and no there are no streetfight Youtube videos of him…LOL[/QUOTE]
whos asking for street fights, please show an example from any fight of what you are talking about, sparring full contact etc, should be easy to show since its in all those styles correct?