Ignor him eyecbatty, he is our forum’s own mentally challenged knucklehead. He has no knowledge of kung fu and likes to insult the real kung fu practitioners here and for some reason he has not been banned yet, I suppose because the administrators pity him because of his mental condition, but I am sure that the time will come.
So don’t provoke him because all he wants is attention and if doesn’t get what he wants he then starts insulting eveyone and then turns the guns on himself, where he has an insulting match with himself.
[QUOTE=HardWork8;889263]Ignor him eyecbatty. He has no real kung fu
So lets get together [/QUOTE]
As I said…here we go again. Basement Boy, after his all of 2-some years of training, declaring his ‘realz kungfu’ orthodoxy and demanding adherence by all who would be ‘pure’ :rolleyes:
And of course he closes with his pathetic cry for affirmation by including himself in a group of some sort (“let’s ignore him, my new best buddy who believes I’m really, really a real kungfu man!”) :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=HardWork8;889243]Hello eyecbatty,
My advice to you is that before you even think about crosstraining or “trying your stuff” against other schools, you should first gain a thorough understanding of what you are learning. This may take a little while as kung fu styles, by nature, take longer to make functional.
Otherwise, you may be in danger of being impressed by mediocricity.
Once you better understand kung fu then you may not feel the need to crosstrain in none TCMAs and might even find that you might gain more by “crosstraining” in other kung styles, that is, once you have first completed your WC studies (on a technical level) or at least when your WC studies are close to an end.
Good luck with your Kung Fu training.:)[/QUOTE]
Seriously, you need to quite spouting your nonsense all over the place. You ever had a knife pulled on you? You ever been shot at? You ever had someone bleed to death in your arms? And you actually felt the last breath that left their lungs? Cuz I have…its f’d up and it f’n sucks
You know its rare, but sometimes, someone is put in a situation where they have to legitimately defend themselves. Not the little happy wing chun chi sao fairy world that you live in. This xenophobic, martial isolation that you live your life could possibly get someone seriously hurt someday. I really hope for your sake and your family you don’t find out the hard way. But don’t be bringing your nonsense around. Especially to someone that is about to be putting themselves in harms way for the benefit of others.
Good thing for him, he has to cross train. Army and Police force combatives all draw heavily from Jiujitsu these days
[QUOTE=SoCo KungFu;889280]Seriously, you need to quite spouting your nonsense all over the place. You ever had a knife pulled on you? You ever been shot at? You ever had someone bleed to death in your arms? And you actually felt the last breath that left their lungs? Cuz I have…its f’d up and it f’n sucks
You know its rare, but sometimes, someone is put in a situation where they have to legitimately defend themselves. Not the little happy wing chun chi sao fairy world that you live in. This xenophobic, martial isolation that you live your life could possibly get someone seriously hurt someday. I really hope for your sake and your family you don’t find out the hard way. But don’t be bringing your nonsense around. Especially to someone that is about to be putting themselves in harms way for the benefit of others.
Good thing for him, he has to cross train. Army and Police force combatives all draw heavily from Jiujitsu these days :D[/QUOTE]
that was so heavy, that even though it wasn’t directed at me, I think I am just going to shut up for a few days…
[QUOTE=cjurakpt;889293] I think[/quote]
Well, I never!
Cjurakpt says “I think”! This must be the dawn of a new era. A psychological quantum leap, no less.
However, I am going to be scientific about this and ask for some proof. Does anyone here have any video clips of cjurakpt in the act of thinking.
If you do, then I suggest that you hand it over to the nearest psychological research institute as you may be holding in your hands the future cure for many of the psychological diseases that plague our time.
You hear that unkokusai? The years that you spent here making an idiot out of yourself in this forum have at last paid off. There is hope for you, yet!
ANOTHER FIRST! Cjurakpt actually shutting up!
Who would have thought that after an endless stream of boring irrelevant and over “intellectual” monologues, kung fu forum’s King of the Bird(and untruths) Brains would eventually promise to shut up, even if it is for a few days
Thank you cjurakpt, I know that it must be difficult for you, but at least it will provide a few days of bliss for the rest of us.:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=SoCo KungFu;889280]Seriously, you need to quite spouting your nonsense all over the place.[/quote]
Coming from you that is extremely funny, but then I am used to the funny comments posted by Glorified Kickboxers, who wouldn’t know real kung fu if it fell on them.
Yes, I have!
I had a gun pulled on me and have been threatened to have a gun pulled on me (some people don’t like me, you know), but I haven’t been shot at and that would in some part explain why I am typing to you.
You really should change your social circles before you go nuts. Just look at what happened to unkokusai.
Or maybe you should improve on your “healing arts’” skills.
Do you think that the reason that these people died was because they didn’t crosstrain in Jiu Jitsu?
You are bringing irrelevant points into this just to score some emotional points and you know it!!!
For someone who posts under the name such as SoCo Kung Fu, (So Called Kung Fu?), you really don’t know much about kung fu training do you?
Even the Wing Chun beginners know that chi sao training is just an exercise, it helps fighting but it is not meant to be realistic sparring…Christ. I think even Cjurakpt knows that (but then, I wouldn’t bet 10 cents on it, either:rolleyes:).
So can your standard (Glorified Kickboxer) “Jack of all Trades and master of none advice”.
NOW! You accuse me of living in xenophobic martial isolation because I advised a kung fu beginner to first understand the art that he is training before considering to crosstrain in other arts.
You are right. Come tomorrow I am going to take my mother to the nearest BJJ class. Hey, it is her birthday soon, maybe I can buy some kickboxing gloves. Actually, I’ll buy the gloves for the whole family as you never know someone may open fire on any one of us at any time.:rolleyes:
IT IS NOT NONESENSE to say that one should understand their core art before crosstraining in others. It is logical and I have even seen one or of your Glorified Kickboxer colleagues giving that same advice (probably because they read it some where).
Boy, I hope he arrests you when he is a qualified policeman for crimes against real kung fu.
More seriously though, I am sure that he will learn the more relevant stuff for his job during his law enforcement training while he is still carrying on the longer term Wing Chun practice.
They also draw heavily from kung fu as well - some people even dare to say that Jiujitsu came from kung fu…:eek:
it’s so odd that you just keep going out of your way to try to insult me; I mean, obviously you can take pretty much anything that I post and find a way to tie it into your own never-ending monologue - we get it; I mean, obviously you can just keep on doing it, but what is the point that you are trying to make here? overall, it’s pretty sad behavior, really, and in all seriousness you are the one that ends up looking like an idiot, not me;
you really may just want to put me on ignore, I think it the only way for you to stop your borderline obsessive behavior at this point…
Do you think that the reason that these people died was because they didn’t crosstrain in Jiu Jitsu?:[/QUOTE]
You really are a D-bag. Even when someone makes reference to something important you make with the, “Tee-hee! I’m so cute!” bull****. You really are a ****ing ******* and I can’t see how even the most rabid WCers would want to be associated with such a stupid, inappropriate, infantile piece of **** like you. (In fact, I imagine they don’t really)
Talk about UNTRUTHS! or did you just stop “thinking” again?
it’s so odd that you just keep going out of your way to try to insult me; I mean, obviously you can take pretty much anything that I post and find a way to tie it into your own never-ending monologue [/quote]
Your entry in this thread implied support for your forum buddy SoCo KungFu, who keeps chasing me around the forum…lol… with his deregotary remarks.
He made an idiotic post with many emotional elements just to demean the advice I had give to Eyecbatty.
Of course, you conveniently did not see the “flaws” (and I am being polite here) in his argument, just like you don’t see the "flaws"of that obnoxious brain damaged unkokusai. One of your problems is that you identify with knuckleheads and that for all intents and purposes makes you one, as well!
Well, you are all certainly “getting it” now, that is for sure!
Yes, go ahead and act the victim infront of the newbies. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Even you must know that!
You certainly have a valid point there (for once!:rolleyes:) but then where will I get my laughs?
Don’t you know that you knuckleheads were put on this earth just for a laugh. One of god’s jokes shall we say. You weren’t put here to enlighten anyone intellectually.
Your main purpose on this earth is to provide combat entertainment for the masses when fighting in competitions or by making them laugh during your feeble attempts at being intelligent.
If you want more proof of the “lack” of intelligence possessed by knuckleheads (outside your own “masterpieces”), then have a look at the post above, written by your obnoxious friend Unkokusai, who is trying his best at the emotional approach. It is very touching to see how a group of birdbrained knucklehead kickboxers influence and ‘help’ each other “intellectually”.
CRITICIZE HIS POST AS WELL MR MORALS! AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT ASSESS SOCO KUNG FU’S OVER EMOTIONAL MANIPULATIVE STATEMENTS!
Now, this is a Wing Chun thread. You’ve had your fun. If you have any advice that contradicts mine then give it to Eyecbatty without your critical and emotional monologues.
Let the man assess the information and the logic behind them so that he can decide for himself. It is important for him to see all perspectives (that includes the knucklehead one as well).
HW8, you’ve really gone off the deep end; it’s too bad you are unable to take a step back and realize how ridiculous you appear; I really tried to genuinely engage in some sort of meaningful discourse with you, and, you will note, completely refrained from any insults or negativity the whole time, simply because I am not interested in that sort of thing unfortunately, you appear to be incapable of doing the same, and I guess that you will only be able to “relate” to people who embrace your own perspective without question or deviation; that in and of itself should speak volumes to the original poster on this thread (which seems to be going the way of it’s recently closed neighbor)
and BTW, my response to SoCo’s post was not a dig at you nor support for his alleged derogatory remarks to you, it was a response to, yes, an emotional image that helps keep things in general in perspective; if you consider that worthy or ridicule, what can one say?;
I really, really strongly suggest you find some way to let this go, as you seem completely unable to do anything other than take cheap shots at me (talk about following someone around - you started up w/me without provocation, in regards to a post that was not addressed to you, was not about you, did not even mention you; do you realize that?); and if, as you say, engaging in this sort of behavior provides you with a source of amusement, then how sad must your life be?
anyway, this will be my last post directed to you / about you / referencing you, until such time as you are able to engage in meaningful discourse; if there is any more in the way of insults, derision, etc., it will be because you perpetuate it; I certainly hope that you will be able to refrain from any such activity in your future posts (and just remember, if what I write irritates you so profoundly to drive you to do so, “ignore” is your friend);
[QUOTE=cjurakpt;889316]HW8, you’ve really gone off the deep end; it’s too bad you are unable to take a step back and realize how ridiculous you appear;[/quote]
Everytime that I have taken a step back, it is you and your Glorified Kickboxer friends who are the ones that end up looking ridiculous.
Why now?
Your post history does not reflect that, I am afraid, but do go on pretending to be civil and polite, by all means.
FALSE AND UNTRUE STATEMENT (YET AGAIN!)! I gave Eyecbatty my advice while another poster (the “great” Sanjuro:rolleyes:) had advised him to, surprise, surprise, crosstrain. I did not attack Sanjuro. I just gave my take on what Eyecbatty should do.
If you bother to read my last post, then you will see that I am encouraging you guys to do the same and to stick to the SUBJECT MATTER, which is Wing Chun (which, if practised correctly, is a style of kung fu).
You can blame unkokusai, Soco kung fu and yourself for that, who for the most part have not managed to put your single brain cells together to make a one post contributing to the subject matter of this thread.
“Alleged derogatory remarks”? You don’t have any shame, do you? What do you call these?
I see that you are being selective with your morality, as usual!
These type of remarks are not only derogatory but they also send the wrong message to kung fu newbies who may not appreciate that their posters don’t know their kung fu from their shopping baskets and that unfortunately includes most posters!
And yes of course, you just happened to be passing by this thread, just like SoCo Kung fu who also was, together with you, part of the other thread that was closed.
It is worthy of ridicule, because of your intention in participating in this thread beside your forum friends of many months (at least) SoCo kung fu and Unkokusai.
Your intention for participating was NOT to contribute to the subject matter of this thread, as you haven’t done that one bit, and that is a FACT!
Additionally, this thread is about Wing Chun (which is a kung fu style) and not about emotional matters (or manipulation).
That never stopped you from doing the same to me, during the brief period where you had no idea who or what you were dealing with and before this strange “civil” phase that you are going through (by the way, you should get a professional to look into that).
Well, I must say that my life was happier before I came across you and your Glorified Kickboxer (kung fu pretender friends) and saw the type of damage that people like you are doing to authentic kung fu training.
I have heard that one before.:rolleyes:
Sheesh, I preferred it more when you - after having received a taste of your own medicine - were pretending to have me on ignore (just to give yourself an aura of self importance, no doubt!).
PS. Still nothing about the subject matter of this thread? Remember? Wing Chun (it is a kung fu style).
It’s funny…over the years many people disappear off of the forums or just pop in for a quick message about something once every month. They get tired of the same old BS.
You want to know what makes WC really effective for some? Their attitude. It has to do with how they APPROACH the martial art. The people that I have met in this field are few are far between but it was worth the effort getting to know them.
These WC players want nothing more than to see others succeed and do so with a very open mind. They’re not scared to play other martial arts, they’re not pushing some secret lineage agenda and their not afraid to have their ego’s squashed.
Eyecbatty, my apologies that you’re intro to this Wing Chun community hasn’t been the best. You’re in good hands training at the headquarters. Enjoy your training there and feel free to reach out to us in the extended family anytime.
[QUOTE=eyecbatty;882803]Thanx for the warm welcome guys..I’m Glad that I’m in Good Hands with my Sifu..
I’m Going into a carreer of Law Enforcement so Combat and Fighting is definetly my focus and goal..
I still do enjoy the philisophical and theory part of this Art[/QUOTE]
All the more reason to “cross test” your training sooner rather than later, you don’t wanna find out the hard way if you need to work on something.
Regardless of what some MAY spew, if you can’t use your MA to save your bacon as soon as possible, what exactly are you dong?
The question is even more relevant in your case due to the field you will be going into.
You’re not part of the Moy Yat family (or extended family) and now you’re spouting off in this thread and have completely destroyed it. Just stop all the crap and mud slinging. It does NOTHING for the credibility of Wing Chun or the people in the art.
It’s funny…over the years many people disappear off of the forums or just pop in for a quick message about something once every month. They get tired of the same old BS.
You want to know what makes WC really effective for some? Their attitude. It has to do with how they APPROACH the martial art. The people that I have met in this field are few are far between but it was worth the effort getting to know them.
These WC players want nothing more than to see others succeed and do so with a very open mind. They’re not scared to play other martial arts, they’re not pushing some secret lineage agenda and their not afraid to have their ego’s squashed.
Eyecbatty, my apologies that you’re intro to this Wing Chun community hasn’t been the best. You’re in good hands training at the headquarters. Enjoy your training there and feel free to reach out to us in the extended family anytime.
Best,
Kenton[/QUOTE]
Well said, I know that when I stared WC, and all the WC sifus I have trained with, have all seen the asset of having someone with prior MA experience in the training.
I recall when Sifu Chan wanted to see how some thing worked VS boxing or karate he would ask me try it out with one of the seniors, same thing with Sifu Tang.
You’ll never know how well something works VS “system A” unless you try it VS “system A”.
Common sense should not be taboo in ANY MA.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;889074]Enjoy your trip but if there is one thing I advice, and I give this to all that train ANY MA for fighting, even if you are not interested in cross training other MA, to cross “fight” other MA, hook up with some guys from different MA and try out your stuff on them.[/QUOTE]This is good advice. Even if you stick with one art (I did… twice! … And made them effective) it’s always useful to practise against people from other arts.
In my wing chun kwoon for my first three years, one of my sihing was a convert from hung gar, and a freestyle national champion full contact. My sifu would often tell us to go and try out whatever we’d been practising on him in full/semi contact sparring to see if it worked. He would then give us feedback. One of my juniors was a shi-to-ryu karate godan and would also put us through our paces. We were lucky enough to have a reasonable amateur boxer, a pak mei stylist and a jujutsuka there too.
If your sifu’s any good and doesn’t worry about the quality of what he’s teaching you, he should encourage you to go and spar with other styles. Any quibbles about how lacking in the right killer intent that some may have will soon be righted at the next session in the kwoon!
Jay, I don’t get this…[QUOTE=Lindley;882589]If fighting and combat is your goal, then you must do your homework to use the principles of Ving Tsun to support this. Fighting and sparring is not part of our “curriculum”, but it’s components are there.[/QUOTE]If fighting and sparring is your goal, your homework will include sparring and ‘life-like’ fighting type activities (competition etc) surely? Yet it’s not part of the curriculum and it looks like it’s totally out in your line.
I understand what you’re saying about developing yourself, but this seems a bit of a contradiction. Isn’t it better to have supervision for that kind of ‘homework’? I don’t know - I can only see it working for a very small proportion of very highly driven people.
