Iresponsible Kung Fu/Qiqong Article

With stuff like this CMA is never going to get out of the doghouse.

I was reading the new issue of Kung Fu/Qiqong at my friends house last night and I was suprised to come across an article by that fraud Richard Mooney and his empty force money making agenda.

What made it worse for me to read was the fact that the pictures show him using this empty force garbage on KNIFE WEILDING ATTACKERS.

It was just to much to freakin take, people really need to learn practical and serious minded self defense skills, knowledge which may in there life time be used to save themselves or there loved ones from lethal harm and this type of junk tricks ignornat people into believing in the magic pill, this type of marketing actually hurts them from finding and training in practical methods of CMA self defense.

The pics of him using his empty force to knock down these knife weilding attackers with that “down doggy, down look” left a sour taste in my mouth, try that conman **** for real, on a determined non-cultist with a blade and you will be dead meat.

I think it is shamefull for you to market such things if you are representing yourself as a serious CMA magazine.

I know this thread will be deleted for marketing reasons but these viewpoints are valid and it sucks.

I happen to agree with you, both on Mooney and the media that continues to give his quackery legitimacy. I’m sure such an opinion is unwelcome and unhelpful here.

Actually there’s another thread on this very subject a couple pages back with the title: “Thanks for all the positive input!!!”
by qimaster(aka Mooney): http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=9439&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I put a link so you could read it without having to bump the whole thread up.

I hear you. Two words - CAVEAT EMPTOR. It would be the publisher’s choice (and rightly so) to build/rouin a reputation of (fill in the blanks). On the other hands, it would be our choice (we are the market) to purchase or not. BTW, there is only BBmag and a Grappling mag in my area. So I don’t really have a choice. To be honest, the current state of MA magazines is really :frowning: with 2 thumbs down Anyway, I hear you big time.

Mantis108

I guess as a mag which is mostly freelance work, they’ve gotta take what they can get.

But does Rich’s stuff work against box cutters?

I enjoy about half of what’s in our sponsors magazine, but the other half is goes between laughable and dillusional.

Sorry Gene, but you guys should be more critical about what goes into my favorite CMA magazine.

why doesn’t he just make an mpeg of himself sparring and using his skills? he’d show us all. we’ll all be eating our hats/socks/inanimate objects then won’t we.

There are some mpegs up on his site.

Here’s an article on the topic by someone with interesting viewpoints: http://www.taijiworld.com/Articles/empty_force.htm

All I can say about that.

Magazines need Articles that will get People to buy their Mag.

May it be a good or a bad Article, if it sells Issues it is in.

Rich Mooney and a few other People pull in those Buyers, like it or not.
Yes, People that believe him and those that don’t will buy the Issue.

This does not make his claims valid nor invalid.

If you don’t like what he does/sez walk up to him and say so to his face.
:cool:

Nuff said.

true they must sell magazines, but the “need the money” excuse is also used by most prostitutes and drug dealers.

And, believe me, I would be overjoyed to run across Mooney and jhave him demonstrate his amazing telekinetic abilites on me, or even on a raw beginner at my club

I think a serious magasine should filter out this kind of crap.

Originally posted by old jong
I think a serious magasine should filter out this kind of crap.

I kind of agree - a responsible magazine should filter out crap. If a magazine cares about its integrity, then it should avoid printing garbage (BTW this is not a comment on Rich Mooney and his techniques as I have not met the man nor experienced his claims).

The excuse that the magazine needs stories that pull in readers is true, however to maintain its readership it must filter out questionable stories. But it must also walk a fine line - the stories must be interesting enough to entice its readers.

In the end, it is up to the reader as to whether they believe the contents of the magazine or not. What one man finds believeable is not always believeable to others. As someone said before - Caveat Emptor.

Personally I have nothing against Rich and what he teaches. If someone wants to depend on that then more power to them, just make sure the insurance policy is big and paid up.

Old Jong makes a good point which begs the question, does KFM want to be taken seriously? Let’s face facts, it’s not JAMA (which also has some odd ball content).

I’m not a CMA practitioner but I read KFM/Q to learn and get an understanding about the CMA. So far this has been a hit and miss endevour. Some articles are pretty good and others are masturbation of the ego of some of the writers, most of whom tend to be Westerners who like to dress up in Asian garb, pose in front of shrines and other tourists traps and come across like silly twits.

BTW, TKD Times also falls into this category except they have Tom Kurz as a columnist and they did have a good if small article on knife fighters.

They have a good time with this kind of things on some BJJ forums. They assume that CMA are all about throwing chi balls from the “derriere”!..
From a BJJ forum!
:rolleyes:

Interesting.

Just checked with some fellow Japanese Students and other MA Guys out here.

Neither of them have ever heard of Rich Mooney nor EM.

and what about the ortepdi ads. I’m sorry you can’t send someone money and grow ten centimeters or whatever. I think KFQ caters to the artsy fruits the way Black Belt and IKF does to the mullet-type stooges

It saddens me to see people like this actually get exposure in a fairly reputable mag. Lord knows that CMA’s suffer enough criticism without “Qimasters” around to make us look silly. I also thought that this was a bit below par for KungFu Qigong magazine. Especially condsidering that this guy has been proven to be a fraud.

Then they publish his articles…?

It does disappoint me. Next thing they’ll probably be publishing the ancient secrets of Ashida Kim ninjutsu :rolleyes:

Come on fellas, pick the standard up. You’re letting the whole team down publishing this goon.

Uhmm, I think that Inside Kung Fu has always been ****. But that’s just my humble oppinion.

DONT BAN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

K, I think that Gene is above banning people for being critical of Inside Kung Fu, especially since he’s with Kung Fu/Qigong magazine you mullet head!:rolleyes: