Man, I went out to get the latest issue of the magazine

and that crazy picture on the cover of the chi gong guy making a silly face caused me to think twice about buying it - is the facial expression caused by hidden weights stretching his genitals?

kungfu/qigong magazine is some of the best fiction/fantasy writing available. I won’t buy the magazine anymore. F@ck shaolin and their monks too. who gives a rats ass about guys who hang crap off their balls?

well

through kung fu I’m familiar with taoist practices and chi kung and and so on, but I was still turned off when I looked at that issue, and wondered if I should really bother with it anymore - it’s silly and embarrassing to even be associated with stuff like this, or a lot of the people who advertise their unrealistic material there.

Have you ever trained or sparred with a Shaolin monk? If not then you really don’t have any basis on which to form your opinion other than the usual footage. I spent a day training with some Shaolin monks in China and I can assure you they are very good martial artists.

hmmm

good wu shu athletes, you mean, don’t you?

Yes they are that. However they also train traditional arts and are also very good martial artists. Have you ever touched hands with one?

spent a day training with some Shaolin monks in China and I can assure you they are very good martial artists

i’m sure they are :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I knew I shouldn’t have bothered responding. Believe what you want to believe. Everyone carries on about how you cannot judge martial ability unless you have touched hands with someone, then quite happily go and judge martial ability based on what they see. Forget about it.

I just don’t buy it, ok

I just don’t buy the whole government-produced whu shu shaolin monk marketing thing, ok? Sorry for not being naive enough or ignorant enough about martial arts for your tatse, but enjoy your illusions and the romance of the long-gone shaolin temple.

Sorry, I don’t see where I am being naive or ignorant. I was over there with my sifu who had been invited to bring the traditional arts back to China. I happened to be part of a group of students with him and he asked us to help teach them some of our training techniques. We spent a day training with the monks and found they were very good martial artists.

But that is OK, because you know better. :rolleyes:

sorry if I was offensive

That’s great that you showed them some traditional stuff.

No problem. It just annoys me when people just write them off because of the stage stuff they see. They do actually train the traditional stuff alongside their wushu and they are very good both kinds of art. They are very strong, agile, and extremely fast learners.

I know for a fact that many masters have been invited to bring the traditional arts back to China. Hopefully in time the traditional arts will flourish again in China.

joe

Yes, but that tells the whole story - instead of putting these guys on a pedestal as something special, they are the ones who have something to learn from us, not the other way around.

Who’s your teacher carly?

I never put them on a pedestal. I always recognised that primarily they are good at wushu. However, my point is that they are actually very good martial artists as well.

Edit: BTW I think we can always learn something from others, regardless of what we think of their skills.

Anyway, being a monk doesn’t make one good or bad at wushu. I’ve seen some that were downright aweful martial artists, and others who were pretty darn good(compared to a lot here in America at least). All being a Shaolin monk means is they’re monks from the Shaolin Temple. There’s still a ton of quality traditional martial arts in the mainland, but I guess if a few people want to ignore that because of a predjudece against modern wushu(usually from ignorance or anti-commie sentements), it’s their loss.

Well said :slight_smile:

pinko’s

LOL. :smiley:

Pinko’s what?

lol @ KFM getting ripped on its own forum