How is a great idea Wing Chun figher suppose to fight according to you?
what kind of technics accompany with what kind of power issuing?
what type of range? how will it look like?..
care to share what is the vision in your mind?
Just post what you think is your vision on how an Idea Wing Chun figther looks.
*** resists temptation to post pics from uglypeople.com ***
Seriously, seeking contact, shutting down the opponents ability to strike and defend through positioning and control, and then striking fast hard and furiously until he hits the floor. All done in a few seconds max.
After which WC’s “world famous secret” groundfighting techniques come into their own
I have to say the ideal WC fighter would be someone using the techniques found in the Wing Chun system in an artistic manner portrayed in (good) martial art films.
I’ll second Hendrik! I feel this kind of terror against those “One”! =)
P.S. I would add that you will never catch on what really hit you. Like a dumb and confounded oak tree, you fell while your ears are still ringing with the sound of a thunderbolt. How did it come to this?
The master fighters in the Chinese movies, usually monks, handle the fight by calmly moving out of the line of fire just enough and either hit once to subdue or are able to control and neutralize without hurting. If you can do the without hurting thing, to someone trying to hurt you, then you are truly a master. That’s my definition of a master.
I like Anerlich’s, Hendrik’s and Ray’s posts- all 3 have important elements in them.
A wing chun sifu who I know and is a friend— did part of his wing chun schooling in HK with Koo Sang. While there he met an elderly “master”(not from the
IM line)- whose entire pole training involved - no blocking- a subtle body adjustment and a strike. Cant vouch for it but not bad as an ideal..
BTW on the “handsome” vote- the estate of the 3 stooges wouldnt let me nominate Moe as the handsomest wing chun man…but then… men are so ugly!! Compared to Halle berry, Nicole Kidman, Katherine Zeta Jones and the lady who played Yim Wing Chun and was in Crouching Dragon.
Originally posted by Vajramusti BTW on the “handsome” vote- the estate of the 3 stooges wouldnt let me nominate Moe as the handsomest wing chun man…but then… men are so ugly!! Compared to Halle berry, Nicole Kidman, Katherine Zeta Jones and the lady who played Yim Wing Chun and was in Crouching Dragon.
The actress in question is Michelle Yeoh
"The master fighters in the Chinese movies . . . . "
This is fantasy stuff, as is the legends, myths about Shaolin monks, etc. And it is a big problem – many people get “ideas” of what they think fighting should be from fantasy, stories, Bruce Lee movies, etc. and they aspire to that and try and achieve that “look”. All that is crap. It is nonsense. That has nothing to do with the reality of fighting.
Instead they should focus on what fighting “is” rather that what they think fighting should “look like” – it is brutal, messy, intense, chaotic, where an opponent is trying their very best to resist you while at the same time pounding you – and how to cope with what “is.” You can only find out what “is” by doing it.
If you can do the without hurting thing, to someone trying to hurt you, then you are truly a master.
Sounds like submission grapplers are the true masters by that account.
But - even in the American academies where challenges are accepted, they’ll submit you the first two times, but if you are stupid enough to demand further retries they WILL break your arm or choke you unconscious.
Also, even Ueshiba Sensei had to hurt someone bad to warn off the constant challengers.
If you can do the without hurting thing, to someone trying to hurt you, then you are truly a master.
Do the “without hurting thing” is not do nothing.
It is just doing thing with non-reaction.
while doing a non-reaction thing still need a high level of skill.
is the skill give raise to a thunderbolt? a tronado? an explosion? a wind? a fire? a water? a laser cut? a… How is it? Cant be just fighting. that is too general. fighting with what? how?
To an observer on the sidelines, my ideal WC fighter should display what seems like effortless efficiency, no matter what the striking distance. Almost invisible technique. Subtle evasion combined with or followed by simple but well-placed
counterattack(s). The spirit would remain calm, like the eye of a hurricane. The opponent should be looking into a face that calmly looks back…just before the lights go out.
An attack is made, but the attacker falls to the ground/retreats etc. Onlookers couldn’t agree on discernable specific techniques from the (to be) victim.
When dream is no longer available for human.
When open expression is depress.
Creativity and innovation die.
and
what else live?
Once, I was in Asia.
Interviewing a room full of Design Engineers with master’s and PHd degree.
I asked them,
So what is your dream.
Tell me.
I wait for 15mins.
No response.
another 10 mins,
some said dream is not practical.
How can such a place produce great Designers?
Can’t.
A year later, the place collapse.
Dream is the continous of evolution or even revolution.
No dream. sooner or later everything die.
some might not agree.
But then
Look at all the articles in the magazine for past 20 years.
some of those who had dream
post thier views and raise thier voice.
and some become the leaders in thier field.