OK hero, thanks for your opinion , now get lost.
:rolleyes:
You are always so negative SifuAbel. Would you like to talk about something that’s bothering you? I’ll listen
i use the front part of my foot and eventually use my whole foot and waste to pivot. put your hips into it too so you can get that snap.
I never was told how to transition from horsestance to bow-and-arrow or vice-versa and I can tell you that in my hundreds of matches in highschool wrestling competition and practice it didn’t matter one flying bit. When you practice (i’m not talking about forms) you learn to do it right and the way that is best for you in different situations and for different moves.
lol…do you play softball, too? That’ll give you the expertise to tell everyone how to play soccer. Here’s a lesson in logic for you: Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. High school wrestling is not CMA. However, here’s something that you might like, if you position your knee behind your opponent’s, you can trasition to a bow and the delivery ends up a nice hip toss. I’ve only done that in sparring with CMA but not in wrestling practice, so it may not work. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by truewrestler
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I never was told how to transition from horsestance to bow-and-arrow or vice-versa and I can tell you that in my hundreds of matches in highschool wrestling competition and practice it didn’t matter one flying bit. When you practice (i’m not talking about forms) you learn to do it right and the way that is best for you in different situations and for different moves.
…and that is all I have to say about that [/B]
What the hell kind of wrestling were you doing that you needed horse stance to bow-and-arrow transitions?
Thanks for your response Ralphie.
I wasn’t trying to be controversial with my post. I’m just trying to add to the debate by saying… find what works for you in practice for the specific techniques that use this transition. I think I expressed that in my last post in maybe the wrong way
Originally posted by chingei
What the hell kind of wrestling were you doing that you needed horse stance to bow-and-arrow transitions?
Exactly my point…
Exactly my point…
Then I guess we should all convert to HS wrestling! Soon, the UFC will be dominated by HS coaches.
Originally posted by truewrestler
Exactly my point…
Then your point doesn’t seem overly relevant to this post, unless I’ve missed something…(not unusual)
lol, no.. that wasn’t my point
There are many ways to do everything that are just different
I really need to start organizing my thoughts better before posting so they come out more clearly
Originally posted by MasterKiller
Then I guess we should all convert to HS wrestling!
The world would be safer, as most HS wrestlers are not so hot.
lol, no.. that wasn’t my point
There are many ways to do everything that are just different
I really need to start organizing my thoughts better before posting so they come out more
Don’t back track now, TW. You’re on a roll.
Your originial point was that such talk is useless because you never needed to worry about these transitions in your HS wrestling days.
I’m eagerly awaiting your next argument about how learning to punch is useless because you never needed to punch someone to pin them. It should be very enlightening.
Originally posted by chingei
The world would be safer, as most HS wrestlers are not so hot.
I’m offended
Originally posted by MasterKiller
Don’t back track now, TW. You’re on a roll.
Backtracking? Sure… if that’s what you call clarifying something I said that is being taken differently than what I meant
Do you think a consensus will be reached in on this thread or does the answer even matter?
Sorry if my post hijacked your thread Falcor
Backtracking? Sure… if that’s what you call clarifying something I said that is being taken differently than what I meant
You compared this discussion to an article in BB on how to walk properly, in effect saying that the discussion taking place was pointless.
If that was not you intention, please clarify for me what you original point was in posting that statment.
No problem. I never get offended or riled up about internet forum posts anymore.
You do bring up an interesting point that in real life usage, you never do it exactly like textbook. But then again, when you’re training you’ve gotta start somewhere. I think of it as doing those in-text problems in physics books where you’re given a frictionless surface or some such. Real life is not that simple, but those sample problems often help you to understand the principle behind the thing.
Anyway, what I was after is what other people use - different people in different arts do the same things differently. Sometimes they may seem totally contrary to each other, but they make sense within their internal order of logic. So far I’ve heard some neat discussion on the heel v. ball-of-feet v. arch. Keep it coming!
Master Killer, I understand the problem now. I was not saying that the techniques using the transition was pointless… just this discussion was without context.
cool Falcor, some of my posts can get people riled up and that is rarely if ever my intention.
What do you train?
I don’t remember being taught any specific way to make this transition, but I noticed that I did it while pivoting on the heel and then shifting my weight to the arch and ball while projecting forward into my bow stance. This felt the most natural and I didn’t feel like I was sacrrificing any speed while doing it.