Only for about six or seven seconds every evening.
ROFL! 
not only does he hold breath and tense shoulder, he look very tense while rolling and first move to open opponent look tense. not so good, if opponent hit him while he doing fast he gone.
LOLā¦Somethingās never change around here.
First we have people complaining that having fast hands is a defect in fighting and then we have people talking about how we donāt need chi-sao to develop fighting skills and that chi-sao teaches nothing useful. Wrong on all parts IMO.
The questions on fast hands, if you can move and punch/strike fast at the same time then you have something, if not you have much less but still you do have a tool at your disposal (otherwise all fighting methods in stationary places would be useless).
Chi-sao is a drill, yes, but it does have fighting applications and uses. Besides learning contact reflexes, we train chi-sao to learn footwork, forward intention, close range eyesight, short force/power, proper positioning of all parts of body in relation to opponent (not talking about single arm or double arm chi-sao necessarily here), etc.. We donāt train to get hit, and training to get hit is stupid IMO. If someone out weighs you by 80+ lbs then one shot may be all he needs to cause serious damage for yourself.
But training just chi-sao is not recommended either. One has to learn how to fight from a non-contact distance and how to bridge the gap and close in on an opponent without exposing themselves to attack and simultaneously obtaining superior positioning if possible and learn how to read their opponents movements from non-contact.
James
Originally posted by sihing
First we have people complaining that having fast hands is a defect in fighting and then we have people talking about how we donāt need chi-sao to develop fighting skills and that chi-sao teaches nothing useful. Wrong on all parts IMO.
James,
No one said fast hands is a defect. I can see that you havenāt changed much either.The criticisms were specific to what we saw in the video, unknown factors not withstanding. Speed can be a defect if it comes at the expense of other fundamental attributes, IMO.
Originally posted by Matrix
James,
No one said fast hands is a defect. I can see that you havenāt changed much either.
I can agree with you here Bill, sacrificing one attribute for another can be to ones determent. Is positioning more important than speed of punch/kick? Both are great, but Iād rather have superior skills at positioning myself in relation to the opponent than super fast hands, just due to the fact that positioning gives me more time to attack and its easier with the proper position to land those attacks.
Regarding the video, I viewed that video months ago and yeah he is fast in it , but like allot of WC out there lacks good positoning, IMO. Fighting down the middle or centerline will only leave you vulnerable to both arms if the person decides to hook, but on the blindside allows easier access for your own tools and less access for his. But its only a demo of a particular technique or attribute, and I'm sure the gentlemen demonstrating it has more tools than just that.
James
P.S. I like who I am, so why change?
Originally posted by sihing
Is positioning more important than speed of punch/kick? Both are great, but Iād rather have superior skills at positioning myself in relation to the opponent than super fast hands, just due to the fact that positioning gives me more time to attack and its easier with the proper position to land those attacks.
I was more concerned about attributes that seem to be lost in order to get the extra speed. Positioning is not one of those attributes.
But its only a demo of a particular technique or attribute, and Iām sure the gentlemen demonstrating it has more tools than just that.
Since itās a publicly posted demo, it is open to criticism. What is the point of showing off this exercise? Has he got other skills? Iām sure he does. We are just discussing the clip. Throwing in endless possibilities and conjecture seems to be meant to muddy the waters.
P.S. I like who I am, so why change?
Great to hear. My comment was in response to your opening remark āSomethingās never change around hereā.
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Hey Keng Geng
I seem to remember another guy who claimed to be from āThe Top of Wing Chun Mountainā. Are you related??