Has anyone here learned total 100% or mostly 100% from videos and books?
[QUOTE=firedragon21;1209197]Has anyone here learned total 100% or mostly 100% from videos and books?[/QUOTE]
Learned what?
Come on Joy you know fully well what the OP is asking! But to wit, eh?
To answer the OP, no. Although I have about 25 Wing Chun titles in my library, nothing is a substitute for learning from someone with more experience than you, face-to-face and being able to ‘touch arms’.
[QUOTE=Paddington;1209212]Come on Joy you know fully well what the OP is asking! But to wit, eh?
To answer the OP, no. Although I have about 25 Wing Chun titles in my library, nothing is a substitute for learning from someone with more experience than you, face-to-face and being able to ‘touch arms’.[/QUOTE]
Thank you,that somes up what I was thinking.
The problem with such learning is that Wing Chun is not like other martial arts where you only need to learn various techniques. WC is a concept-based skill which can only be developed through interaction with human energy through contact. Learn all about the forms and theory, without chi-sau it is all useless. But of course, without real sparring, chi-sau is only a game. Many people get hung up on that and get a false sense of ability to fight because they can “defeat” someone in a game of chi-sau.
I have learnt all my kung fu from DVDs. I feel i have reached a very high level. I chi sau alone which allows me to be soft as air. Anyone who says you cant master wing chun vis DVD needs to spend hundreds of $$$ on instructional DVDs plus put in the hours. I view everyday and practice once a month. Soon im gonna open up my own club teachinh people. Im currently learning grappling from DVD so might start teaching MMA. Why face to face instruction?? Dealing with a teachers bad breath?? Get with the program peeps!!
[QUOTE=chaotic2k;1209235]I have learnt all my kung fu from DVDs. I feel i have reached a very high level. I chi sau alone which allows me to be soft as air. Anyone who says you cant master wing chun vis DVD needs to spend hundreds of $$$ on instructional DVDs plus put in the hours. I view everyday and practice once a month. Soon im gonna open up my own club teachinh people. Im currently learning grappling from DVD so might start teaching MMA. Why face to face instruction?? Dealing with a teachers bad breath?? Get with the program peeps!![/QUOTE]
Trolling…
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Trolling…[/QUOTE]
And self contradictory too! By his own argument he defeats the need for the martial arts school he proposes to set up!
[QUOTE=LFJ;1209233]The problem with such learning is that Wing Chun is not like other martial arts where you only need to learn various techniques. WC is a concept-based skill which can only be developed through interaction with human energy through contact. [/QUOTE]
Oh dear, what other martial arts have you studied that didn’t require contact?
This maybe?
[QUOTE=pazman;1209250]Oh dear, what other martial arts have you studied that didn’t require contact?[/QUOTE]
Front Cover
Paul Dong, Thomas Raffill
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Blue Snake Books, Jan 19, 2006 - Sports & Recreation - 192 pages
Ling Kong Jing, the “Empty Force,” is the highest martial arts skill in China. This extraordinary technique harnesses the power of chi, the body’s vital energy, enabling masters of the art to defend themselves against opponents without making physical contact. The book takes readers step by step from theory to the actual practice used to generate Empty Force, and shows how to use its remarkable power for healing as well as self-defense.
One of the disciples said that he would cook my liver from far without contact.<g>
[QUOTE=pazman;1209250]Oh dear, what other martial arts have you studied that didn’t require contact?[/QUOTE]
I strongly suspect it was a joke, posted very tongue in cheek
[QUOTE=wingchunIan;1209263]I strongly suspect it was a joke, posted very tongue in cheek[/QUOTE]
The answer- empty force- was also a joke
[QUOTE=pazman;1209250]Oh dear, what other martial arts have you studied that didn’t require contact?[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I didn’t make it obvious, but don’t be retarded. The point is punching and kicking techniques can be learned on a bag and applied straight away. Most other MA’s don’t use or need chi-sau type interaction, but WC concepts must be developed into skill through chi-sau practice, otherwise they’re largely useless.
A Heavy Bag Sits or Hangs in One Place.
[QUOTE=LFJ;1209322]Sorry if I didn’t make it obvious, but don’t be retarded. The point is punching and kicking techniques can be learned on a bag and applied straight away. Most other MA’s don’t use or need chi-sau type interaction, but WC concepts must be developed into skill through chi-sau practice, otherwise they’re largely useless.[/QUOTE]
Which is true, but if someone cant move their feet right, they wont generate enough balance in which one needs to have to hit a moving target with power.
With good form and strategy one’s strikes will most of the time land first, but without good balance/mobility; power, form and technique will never develop. And that’s with wing chun as well.
Balance and Technique
What youre about to see here is something Ill do every other day of the week, about 200 three minute rounds. I like welterweights mostly because of the faster workouts.
NOTE: ‘Fury’ is on his 8th round right before the other rookies walked in, and hes on his way out (sapped energy), but still kept form, balance and technique while moving his feet at the same time. But when Id see them trying to stop before I said its over, and then Ill push them a little harder.
The other kid did ok, but when it was time for him to move his feet, it went ugly and without power. I know this has been voted the worst pad work ever here on this forum by you guys, so lets just stay with my premise.
[QUOTE=LFJ;1209322]Sorry if I didn’t make it obvious, but don’t be retarded. The point is punching and kicking techniques can be learned on a bag and applied straight away. Most other MA’s don’t use or need chi-sau type interaction, but WC concepts must be developed into skill through chi-sau practice, otherwise they’re largely useless.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, a bit of a joke on my part, but I think you should be careful of calling people “retarded.”
You’re original post seemed to indicate that other martial arts only have techniques while Wing Chun is unique in being based on “concepts”.
Most other MA’s don’t use or need chi-sau type interaction, but WC concepts must be developed into skill through chi-sau practice, otherwise they’re largely useless.
That sounds like a weakness where Wing Chun is concerned.
[QUOTE=pazman;1209572]Sorry, a bit of a joke on my part, but I think you should be careful of calling people “retarded.”
You’re original post seemed to indicate that other martial arts only have techniques while Wing Chun is unique in being based on “concepts”.[/QUOTE]
Didn’t call anyone retarded, just don’t be if you aren’t. 
Compared to many traditional martial arts, that is the case.
[QUOTE=anerlich;1209575]That sounds like a weakness where Wing Chun is concerned.[/QUOTE]
How do you mean?
[QUOTE=anerlich;1209575]That sounds like a weakness where Wing Chun is concerned.[/QUOTE]
VT is strong…weakness is in errors. Aka not understanding very BASIC fundamentals.