Makes all the arguing kinda pointless…
Myself am becomming confused… excessive use of the word karate and constant use of the word kung fu…
I especially like the mailing address for the form:
SDA c/o Sin Thé Karate School
282 Gold Rush Rd.
Lexington, KY 40503
it even says it on the belt certificates…
BELT certifacates.
Originally posted by Sin The’
Bah, you foolish plebes seek to discredit the ultimate martial art of Shaoin Do! Karate means “China Hand” so it is kung fu. You all cringe before my majesty, and tremble in fear at my skill.
Actually, it USED to be called To Te (I think that’s right) which means China Hand, but it was later changed to Kara Te which is empty hand 
Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
Bahahahahahaha
I have to dive into the redundant mix.
and we must use some form of japanese kwandao. and the chain whip? came from taiwan… ? How about our broadswords? INDONESIA!!! ?..
The mantis forms? Youre **** right, we stole them from GW Bush himself,
The crane? Ha! Its straight from imperial hungary, and as for tiger, it came from a large russian named Schpotznikov.
Wait… nevermind. Im just a smart ass and tired of arguing the same ass argument… Guess some things will never change… until I come and take all of your shiny trophies from your tournaments!!!
Holy crap! George W is really a Mantis master in disguise? I knew that guy had to do something to look that goofy and still be alive..
Originally posted by Shuul Vis
[B]“Bah, you foolish plebes seek to discredit the ultimate martial art of Shaoin Do!”
Maybe im not up to speed with my vocabulary but what are “plebes” ? If it is a word then i bow to your superior something or other. If not, then thats **** funny and i am going to call many, many people “foolish plebes” from this day forward. [/B]
From what I know, it’s a word for peasant. I’ve seen it used in Sepultura’s lyrics from the song Biotech Is Godzilla. But I don’t really understand why we are being reffered to as peasants. And if you’re lead to believe that any art is the ultimate, I think you need to really re-learn everything you know.
Originally posted by CaptinPickAxe
you know, If Sin wanted to distinquish the difference between Karate and Shaolin-Do, you’d think he’d use the word “Karate” less on his documents.
I don’t think that GM Sin carees one way or another.
From what I know, it’s a word for peasant. I’ve seen it used in Sepultura’s lyrics from the song Biotech Is Godzilla. But I don’t really understand why we are being reffered to as peasants. And if you’re lead to believe that any art is the ultimate, I think you need to really re-learn everything you know.
Main Entry: ple·be·ian
Pronunciation: pli-'bE-&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin plebeius of the common people, from plebs common people
Date: 1533
1 : a member of the Roman plebs
2 : one of the common people
It means you are a commoner, and as such, lowly and unimportant.
I don’t think that GM Sin carees one way or another.
If he didn’t care about it, he wouldn’t be writing books, visiting Shaolin Temples, and putting so much effort into hedging the truth in order to mask the origins of his style.
BTW, JP…Madden 2004 is the shiznit. Two words: PLAYMAKER CONTROL.
I’d be very skeptical, to say the least, about learning Southern Mantis from this organization. Northern, maybe, but very few people actually know the complete Southern Mantis system (all three forms). There is also confusion over S. MAntis too. Because I’ve seen people doing “S. Mantis” sets that are obviously northern, with high kicks and the “mantis claw”.
Why do I doubt that Master The’ knows the entire system when NYC-based disciples of Grandmaster Gin Foon Mark do not, and those that do won’t teach them.
With that said, you might be better off anyway. My old sifu screwed himself up with the S. Mantis reverse breathing. Something’s not right in there. And the collopasing of the chest cavity puts pressure on the heart.
Anyway, I’m a little bummed on martial arts right now. My wrist hurts and I can’t hit anything … blaaaaaah.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
[B]
If he didn’t care about it, he wouldn’t be writing books, visiting Shaolin Temples, and putting so much effort into hedging the truth in order to mask the origins of his style.
BTW, JP…Madden 2004 is the shiznit. Two words: PLAYMAKER CONTROL. [/B]
He has always called it karate, always said it was just called karate from the tradition of teaching in indonesia, and always said its origins were in the shaolin temples. The Shaolin thing didn’t come around once that name becaue more prevelant in american martial arts circles. If anything he may “americanized” the name and called it shaolin “karate” to bank in on the popularity of karate and karate’s name recognition in the states during the 60s. But that explanaion comes more from his brother’s camp.
Madden 2004 is the best of the series. I’m on my second season now. Not enough hours in the day to work, train, and waste time on video games. Too bad I don’t have online capability. I’d show you who’s the playmaker!
What team do you play with?
From his excessive posts using a certain word a while ago… I’d say the other team…
I’m just teasing, settle down, I don’t want you using that technique from kata #887 that uses all that dim mak…
Originally posted by Judge Pen
[B]Philbert,
Thanks for the correction. I guess if I was paraphrasing I shouldn’t have used quotes.
Also thanks for comments on looking before dissing. I appreciate that. If they view a class and still think its crap, at least they can state some constructive criticism. [/B]
Not a problem. A year or so ago I use to really diss Shaolin-Do and even talked to some Shaolin practioners and joked about how I should go into the school and lay down a challenge, though I was just joking. I finally came to the conclusion that since I’ve never seen Shaolin-Do, I can’t say Shaolin-Do is good bad. Even after meeting someone, I still really can’t say, because it’s the person, not the style.
I can watch a hundred videos of a hundred Shaolin-Do practioners, but until I meet a practioner, I can not say that it is good or bad. I might meet 10 SD guys, spar with 10, beat 6 and get defeated by 4. After that I can formulate an opinion of them. I really would love to meet some SD guys too, they are on the top of my list of stylists I’d like to just practice with one day to see how they do there thing. Since SD is one of the most dissed arts (next to TKD) online, I’d like to see if they can back there stuff up.
I know there is a school in my city too, I’ve actually driven past it, got out of my car one day and walked up and looked into the school (they weren’t training at the time or else I’d of gone in). If I remember correctly, huafist even trains there, or did train there. I can easily meet them and see how they do there thing, the only thing is I don’t wanna sound too disrespectful walking in and asking to spar with them in a friendly match just to formulate an opinion.
Philbert- I should be up that way in a week or 2…
Re: mantis breathing…
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shaolinarab
[B]
actually, one thing needs to be clarified. the entire mantis system is not taught per se. the curriculum is set up so that you explore different facets of different animal and other hard styles in the beginning as you progress to the blackbelt levels and pursue more in depth training of specific styles
***What is the origin of this “more indepth” training?
(hence my earlier analogy of the liberal arts). there are several playing mantis forms taught in various levels, and should you choose to focus your studies in the mantis system then you can choose to study mantis forms and applications.
***Again, where are these forms from?
that is why each of the more senior shaolin-do masters all have specialities in specific styles, such as tai chi, hua fist, and black tiger,
***Cool. It sounds like each Superfriend having their own super power.
depending on the individual even though all have conducted their training in Shaolin-do. Grandmaster Sin’s is the Golden Snake.
****"I …Sin The… harness the power of the Golden Snake!!!..hooooo!!!..(He thrusts his hands in the air and Golden thunderbolts shoot down and his Gi turns gold with golden snake embroidery.) I am Golden Snake Master Sin The hear to fight for good and against evil and to show women everywhere my Golden Snake…techniques!!! "
as for the mantis breathing exercises, they are taught to black belts, alongside the i chin ching exercises (muscle tendon changing/strengthening). my teacher incorporates exercises from both in our conditioning classes, and boy, do they work the b
****This stuff is such **** I can’t hardly believe it!!! Only someone with a 6th grade mentality would get sucked in by this.
It reminds me of when I used to dress up as a Ninja when I was a kid.
Sorry folks. To become a real master of any REAL style takes years and years.
Re: Re: mantis breathing…
Originally posted by Fu-Pow
Sorry folks. To become a real master of any REAL style takes years and years.
agreed. shaolin-do’s claims are extremely insulting to the systems it claims to represent and anyone whose spent time and effort trying to master any single system.
i wouldn’t give a rat’s ass if they named it shaolin-do and said “these are the forms we teach - but we made them up/created them/stole them ourselves” instead of trying to tell the real experts who knows what. the problem is the arrogance in saying that “ours is the real true shaolin, most bestest thing ever and look how little work it takes! just by showing up and paying some money you too can be a master! why waste years doing it the hard way when you can have instant gratification?!?”
this may not be the way the classes are ran, but this is how the publicity/marketing works, and it stinks to high heaven.
bah
Originally posted by Shaolin-Do
Im down to spar
No one ever says tho “HEY SAN ANTONIO KFERS! LETS FIGHT!”
Oh well… SC starts real soon. REAL SOON.. I hope..
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Originally posted by Kymus
[B]
From what I know, it’s a word for peasant. I’ve seen it used in Sepultura’s lyrics from the song Biotech Is Godzilla. But I don’t really understand why we are being reffered to as peasants. And if you’re lead to believe that any art is the ultimate, I think you need to really re-learn everything you know. [/B]
Well I was going another direction with this; a plebe is a first-year student at the U.S. Military Academy or the U.S. Naval Academy. Kind of like calling someone a newb, I assume.
hehehehe
funny stuff.
Ill bid 3$!