Shaolin kung fu is too traditional and in the street useless. Tiger,hung gar and wing chun are good. Alot of shaolin styles r. But shaolin louhan is quite stupid…the low postures!
Why fight from a low posture? So it takes longer to raise up and u get your head smashed in? Why bother with shaolin!!! It is good for keeping fit!
Nin-Po-Dragon
WOW…you have such an understanding of the Chinese martial arts after 6 months of training. Not to mention for someone who doesn’t even train in Kung Fu.
Some might say the same of ninjitsu 
Have you ever fought a Shaolin fighter? Have you ever tried training in a Shaolin style? Unless you have done either or both of these things, I don’t really think you are in a position to make a judgement on that.
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You’re fu(king up my chi
you mentioned hung gar
isnt hung gar known for its low stances?
A litle more that meats the eye
Dear friend
Chinese fighting forms may seam unusefull to the unskilled eye, but forget not that this training forms have lasted centuries of refinentment, and believe me if you studie some chinese history you may notice the great conflicts, if a martial art did not work it woudnt have survive to aour times. Also a form is a complet set of training if it has low postures is for you to train stamina and streghth, por examples in northern sets the kicking is so high some would say it doesnt work on a real life situation but if you studie te theory it states “kicks no higher than waist” so all those low postures, great leaps and high kicks are but a mean of training your body for real batle. Keap an open mind you wil be surprise of what one can learn.
Amitoufo
Luis Fernando Espinosa Ceja
Sorry about my horrible english
Obviously you need some northern shaolin stylist to whoop your ass…
If Americans would get off their lazy a$$ and believe in what they are training, then the sets and styles that they practice would work. If you believe in your style, and work on it…it’s gonna come in handy either way. But the american concept is, stand up, bounce like a fool, and punch kick and block like they are sparring, or go to the ground and wrestle (I don’t even want to hear about BJJ).
If anyone like the real Wong Fei Hung or Ku Yu Cheong of the Northern Style walked into your school…he’s gonna whoop your a$$. They practiced and perfected the style that they were given to learn. These are perfect examples of men that believed in their systems and proved their styles worthiness.
And if Shaolin is too traditional…why the hell has it been around so long. Go take on a Shaolin Monk of the old, bring a long wooden box, and tape it for me, because he’ll whoop on your a$$ and then send it home in your box!! Then, if you make it, you can tell me that Shaolin is too traditional!!
You need to know what the hell you are talking about before you run your mouth!
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
BTW…
I wasn’t referring to ALL Americans, I was just referring to ANYONE IN GENERAL THAT TALKS …especially the one’s that talk about stuff they DON’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT!! NIN-PO DRAGON!!!
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
You have offended my family…
and you have offended the Shaolin temple.
This is a kung fu forum, shaolin is very respected here in many ways, as a martial art included. It is effective.
“I AM EFFECTIVNESS”
Wing Chun, Tiger, and Hung Gar can be called “Shaolin” depending on the source.
Besides, all three arts have their share of “low” postures.
Why fight from a low posture? So you can displace somebody else’s root without being taken to the ground yourself.
Oh yeah. Don’t be late for the school bus, Nin-Po-Dragon.
NIN PO DRAGON
now that you have heard from all the kids on this subject,and they so eloquently put you in your place,haha (yeah right). let me explain to you why shaolin kung fu is not stupid.
the low stances train your highr stances in fighting,the resistance that is utilized in forms,especially in low stances strengthens your ability to move fast and kick powerful in a more practical fighting stance. NO ONE that i know fights in MA BO,or in TUI BO(bow stance). to do so would end in your demise. i think that in training one should be able to understand why we do what we do and the usefullness in that. the styles that you mentioned,tiger,hunggar,wingchun,these also train in low stances as well but because these styles are more Combat oriented they also have the higher stance for fighting. shaolin LOhan is the gateway to learning more devastating fighting styles such as praying mantis. so i would inplore you nin po dragon to not dismiss the lohan system as inneffective. It IS. with that being said i hope that you are able to understand why we do low stances in shaolin kung fu.
Many Respects,Willow Sword
Whatever you think i am or want me to be, i am.
Luke?! Luke?! dont give into hate. That leads to the dark side.
Obi Wan Kenobi,star wars, empire strikes back.
Wushu Chick
Stop your getting me all excited.
Talk about putting a TROLL in his place!!!
You go girl!!!
Its not what goes in a man that defile’s him, its what comes out.
Willow Sword
You call me a child and then procede to THINK you know anything about Shaolin?? Go back to Shaolin Do and tell Master The he’a a joke…that’s why he ORIGINALLY CALLED IT SHAOLIN KARATE when he was back East in Kentucky. So, take your THEORIES about “shaolin” what you THINK, and shove it up your ass. And a true Kung Fu Practitioner doesn’t wear a karate belt, or a GI!!
There’s for CHILDISH!
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
Wushu Chik
I admire your spirit, but TWS isn’t a bad guy. You may not agree with what he trains, but he often has good things to say. I don’t think that anything he said was wrong.
Anyway, I think you should cut him some slack.
Keep hammering the trolls though
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You’re fu(king up my chi
HI Wushu Chick
its weird that YOU would take a personal offense to my comments( i dont think that i ever mentioned YOU in my comments to Nin Po Dragon.)
So Angry,Why? Based on what your reply to ME was,do you think that i am wrong in what i say?
i have this vision of you watching a tournament and a guy in kung fu pants goes out to do a form and you are watching,you think that it is the most amazing thing that you have ever seen: you get a little wet because the guy is handsome and presents himself very well,you get up the nerve to go talk to him and ask him “what do you study?” and he says “Shaolin-Do” You proceed to kick him in the balls and storm off ranting and raving in a neurotic PMS’ed out temper tantrum about how its all going to hell in a handbasket.
Wushu Chick: you dont know me 
Many Respects,Willow Sword
Whatever you think i am or want me to be, i am.
Luke?! Luke?! dont give into hate. That leads to the dark side.
Obi Wan Kenobi,star wars, empire strikes back.
Willow Sword
“i have this vision of you watching a tournament and a guy in kung fu pants goes out to do a form and you are watching,you think that it is the most amazing thing that you have ever seen: you get a little wet because the guy is handsome and presents himself very well,you get up the nerve to go talk to him and ask him “what do you study?” and he says “Shaolin-Do” You proceed to kick him in the balls and storm off ranting and raving in a neurotic PMS’ed out temper tantrum about how its all going to hell in a handbasket.”
Yeah, and I bet that little vision of yours got you all hot and bothered didn’t it?
FIRST OFF~ A form from a Shaolin Do practitioner would do NOTHING for me but make me want to gag. It’s embarassing for your style to even put SHAOLIN in it’s name, for the simple fact that WE SHAOLIN PRACTITIONERS don’t wear gi’s or karate belts. And that’s why most Shaolin Do practitioners don’t compete. In the USAWKF, NASKA or the NBL/SKIL I have never seen one of your “kung fu” guys compete.
SECOND OFF~ Where in the history of the Fukien Temple did Shaolin Do come from? I would really like to know!
THIRD OFF~ “with that being said i hope that you are able to understand why we do low stances in shaolin kung fu.” You saying you do Shaolin Kung Fu is a derogitory remark, because Shaolin Do is nothing but GLORIFIED KARATE!!! You had better do more research on before you can come on and say that u DO ANY SORT OF KUNG FU.
I don’t know you, you are right..but you have no opinion in my book…I really am NOT trying to be a B!tch, but come on now…give me a break.
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wushu Chik:
because Shaolin Do is nothing but GLORIFIED KARATE!!!
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Don’t insult Karate like that. If you’ve ever seen an Okinawan Karate stylist, you would notice that what they do is esentially a Japanese version of Sourthern Kung Fu.
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu
SORRY PICCOLO!!
WELL WELL WELL
Looks like you have a thing against SD. thats okay, most people do in this forum. i will say that i do not like the idea of wearing Karate uniforms at a CMA school,BUT,i cannot change that nor can i change history. i have been in martial arts long enough to know when someone has something decent to say and when someone is spouting off and letting thier PMS get to them. Have your emotions, do not let them have you. Kung-fu is NOT a UNIFORM wushu chik. kung fu is not a stylized name or organization with a history. KUNG-FU is HARD WORK,and DEDICATION WITHOUT ego getting in the way to bettering yourself emotionally spiritually and physically. naturally the physical and outward appearance starts first,then as the years go by that all becomes moot and useless. each person does his/her best according to his/her own abilities. im sorry if SD offends you. Im sure SD doesnot mean to offend you or your organization, wushu chik. if you would like further communication(and i would) you can e-mail me @ whirlwindshield@aol.com sometimes we prejudge too harshly with out really getting to know someone or something. but i will say that yout rantings are hardly becoming,i dont even know your organization,and if i did i would not exhibit the behavior that you have been on this subject,besides,SD is NOT the original subject here,by your rantings you have turned the subject into your own personal crusade against SD and nin po dragon is probably laughing his ass off at the banter here and is now convinced that Shaolin kung fu is worthless due to the bickering between shaolin school. well any way hope we can further communicate(in a proper manner befitting true martial artists)
Many respects,Willow Sowrd
Whatever you think i am or want me to be, i am.
Luke?! Luke?! dont give into hate. That leads to the dark side.
Obi Wan Kenobi,star wars, empire strikes back.
We know Nin Po Dragon doesn’t know what he is talking about. But, What I am talking about is the fact that you as a SD stylist don’t have any room to talk. That’s what I am saying. And your feminist PMS B*LL is retarted. It’s sexist, and stupid, but I wouldn’t expect anything more from you!
I am ALWAYS Kung Fu Fighting…what about you?
But Shaolin-do is fake ass sh!t.
“It is necessary to drink alcohol and pursue other fun human activities. The art of someone who is too serious has no flavour.”- Choki Motobu