Has anyone trained with Sifu Jose Grados or know anything about him?
You should contact his ex student Sean Obasi, otherwise you’re better off going in person and seeing for yourself.
Cheers,
-Nirav
[QUOTE=nasmedicine;1176380]You should contact his ex student Sean Obasi, otherwise you’re better off going in person and seeing for yourself.
Cheers,
-Nirav[/QUOTE]
Dont ask Obasi 
unless you want the reasons not to go to Grados 
In for drama.
[QUOTE=SunRA;1176352]Has anyone trained with Sifu Jose Grados or know anything about him?[/QUOTE]
No other comment. IMO he is NOT in the Ho/Fong lineage despite his web site. The term lineage is often used very very loosely.
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1176381]Dont ask Obasi unless you want the reasons not to go to Grados ;)[/QUOTE]
You beat me to it Kevin… 
In a nutshell-
What did Obasi say?
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1176467]In a nutshell-
What did Obasi say?[/QUOTE]
:mad:)(“%¤!”)=(¤!=¤)%¤? :mad:
thinks that pretty much sums it up
[QUOTE=jesper;1176507]:mad:)(“%¤!”)=(¤!=¤)%¤? :mad:
thinks that pretty much sums it up :D[/QUOTE]
Wow!
Besides Sean Obasi’s negative comments does anyone have anything to say about him as a teacher? I’m looking to train in NYC. TWC with Master Redmond only trains once a week, which I would like to train more often.
Are you in the city? If so then just go and meet up with Grados and see for yourself. You’ll know instantly whether you want to stay or not. That would be better than anything else anybody could say on this forum. Wouldn’t you agree?
[QUOTE=SunRA;1176512]Besides Sean Obasi’s negative comments does anyone have anything to say about him as a teacher? I’m looking to train in NYC. TWC with Master Redmond only trains once a week, which I would like to train more often.[/QUOTE]
if Phil is not available.
[QUOTE=nasmedicine;1176516]Are you in the city? If so then just go and meet up with Grados and see for yourself. You’ll know instantly whether you want to stay or not. That would be better than anything else anybody could say on this forum. Wouldn’t you agree?[/QUOTE]
I’m new to wing chun so that’s why I was asking. I really don’t have anything to gauge him on. If Master Redmond taught more than once a week in NYC that would be awesome<hint, hint> LOL
Im not sure of his background, but he can fight for real and Ive seen many practitioners live only off the reputation of others; and at the same time cant fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a slug hammer, only down by association but really hate the workout. Go visit them all and if they dont run their mouths more than providing their skill level, but literally can shut you down (light/hard sparring) no matter what you do, then go with them if it’s convenient for you to do so.
Stay away from the talk, talk, talk but train with someone that can really kick your but, and will have no problem showing you as well; always test your new/maybe sifu skill level, if hes really good he shouldnt have a problem with it. Im not the best in the world, but Ive spar with a room full of black belts (8) and dominated them all (one by one) and my school here in Kentucky really took off because of it. Had to; because Id moved to a new location and didnt want anyone to get it confused.
My recommendation is go see for yourself. From Sifu Grado’s clips (and he has many out there) he looks like he has some skill and understanding in his art. He isn’t afraid to put himself out there and I’ve heard he has no problem meeting up with people that want to touch hands and see what he can do (as Ali has it seems, with good outcome and review)
And I would take some of the comments here with a grain of salt. Some of them are going to be biased based on either jealousy, politics, gossip, etc
Example:
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1176459]---------------------------------------------------
No other comment. IMO he is NOT in the Ho/Fong lineage despite his web site. The term lineage is often used very very loosely.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1176459]In a nutshell-
What did Obasi say? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vajramusti;1176459]Wow! [/QUOTE]
There’s a saying, if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything, but I guess some people just can’t help themselves. It’s also laughable how it’s clear people don’t like him without knowing much about him, yet still look for the juicy gossip like a woman in a sewing circle.. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Ali. R;1176522]I’m not sure of his background, but he can fight for real and I’ve seen many practitioners live only off the reputation of others; and at the same time can’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag with a slug hammer, only down by association but really hate the workout.
Yes- I am pretty sure that he can fight. There are many ways to fight-not just with wing chun.
Depends on what someone is looking for. I am sure that Phil. Kevin and some of Alan Lee’s people can fight too- they have solid wing chun back grounds.The enquirer can check, see, compare decide for himself.
So youre saying that the names makes them solid and if one is not promoted or promote themselves as Yip Mans students, then they are not real; when theres sifus that have came from all walks of life that people never heard of have expressed their connection to Yip Man and with skills to back it up.
Well, there are many who took photos with Yip Man and many students who choose not to use his name for promotion, because most of them dont run martial art schools for profit, and for some that do/did (drop Yips name) are ousted as not being solid students of Yip Man by his top students, even though they have been seen TRAINING with him (Leung Ting and others) but that does not make it so (their linage not being real).
Training with Yip Man for one to three years does not make them solid students of his system when Yip didnt run group classes but taught mostly his first top five students/privately, while they have all taught many through group and private classes that some never even heard of still today.
My Sifu trained privately with Yip Man and Leung Sheung (almost 10 years), but by the way you tell it, it doesnt count.
Ive seen photos of my teacher training with Yip Man and leung Sheung, should I believe you because his name is not written down somewhere as being a second generation student of Yip Man, does that not make him real?
Ali,
Sorry, but I do not get anyone saying you need to come from Yip Man’s line to be real or even good.
Not sure where you are getting that from. There are several on this forum who do not draw thier line through Yip Man.
I think what Joy was saying was that there are many ways to fight and be good at doing so. Being from a specific Wing Chun lineage does not insure one can fight. However, there are some lines which are more well known for mixing it up than others. Does not make them better, just a different emphasis.
Of course this is my interpretation so I may be mistaken, I have been known to be wrong though usually it is the other guy not me JK
Anyhow, I just don’t see where you are coming from with the implication that anyone is claiming you need to be from Yip Man’s line to be good. 
implication?
[QUOTE=Sihing73;1176570]Ali,
Anyhow, I just don’t see where you are coming from with the implication that anyone is claiming you need to be from Yip Man’s line to be good. [/QUOTE]
I did not say that, could you please show me where I did. I’m taking about lineage in general, Yip Man’s is just an EXAMPLE on how people can really lose their minds over a recorded name.
[QUOTE=Ali. R;1176563]So you’re saying that the names makes them solid and if one is not promoted or promote themselves as Yip Man’s student’s, then they are not real; [/QUOTE]
Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but this seems to imply that you are saying someone implied that unless one trained with Yip Man they were not real.
I mean is it me or is that what you said??
If you were using Yip Man just as an example then your wording, IMHO, was poorly chosen. But that is just my opinion.