This is a very good sword in my collection that I like very much. Posting to share. The sword is well build, sturdy, good weight but you have to know how to hold a sword right to enjoy it. Many kungfu masters who hold a sword wrong like the typical wushu “hold by the guard” method will get your hands all scrached and bleeding for sure because that’s not how you hold the sword right. Enjoy the sword photos!
This is sword no.1 Chun Gim.
the sacred blade is defiled by the touch of your soft, fat hands
From what I’ve seen in your videos, you are not a sword expert. The sword you show is pretty enough, however I’m concerned about the shape of the blade, particularly at the terminal point of the half-fuller; the photo isn’t great but it looks like a likely stress point and you don’t want a stress-point half-way along the blade.
What forge produced the sword?
It doesn’t look like an actual Longquan jian; the seven stars on the forte are not up to scratch.
I’m suspecting it’s a decorative blade only.
it said qin sword.
well it is not correct.
qin sword is much wider and longer. made out of bronze ?
it was not shiny or pointed.
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nice stainless sword.
The forge mark says Longquan Zhongguo but it doesn’t look like any longquan forge mark I’ve ever seen (and I’ve been to Longquan). Lots of random nobody forges with stamped steel blades carve the Longquan name into the blade, stick seven stars on the forte and call it a day.
Shanzhai wall hangers one-and-all.
He’ll probably come back and claim to be a sword expert after your responses. And then tell you that you guys didn’t learn Teh Reelz Shwordz.
Meh,
I’ve seen his videos.
His grip is so soft a baby could disarm him with a piece of dowel.
Considering that, I’m not surprised if he mistakes a pretty sword for a good sword.
It’s a style popular in the sword shops in Wu Dang village (Liuliping) I had a two handed version that I bought in 2009. They’re making them more gaudy and unwieldy every year.
The sword above is great for practice as well. The sword is shorter than normal swords, but then the weight is quite nice. You can find them in Toronto too, no need to go to wudang village, haha! They can cost about $80-$150 depends where you get them. But as said, they require you to have a good grip practice to use, if not, you will hurt yourself only and scratch you hands.
Toronto and Wudang are about the same distance from here:D
Not a good picture but third one from the bottom is the two handed in a similar style.
This is another similar one to the sword above, it says “General’s carry sword” on the blade. This is short like the sword above, but sturdy blade, and it feels very good in your hand. We use it for Taoism magic at our temple. These are just good because all the kungfu use swords are too long for Taoism magic sometimes, so it’s nice to find these decent ones! I am happy about the sword!! 
Btw, great grip and very solid feeling too!
since when does taoism have majic and violence in it? am I missing something master?
Something odd about this…
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1128230]since when does taoism have majic and violence in it? am I missing something master?[/QUOTE]
Taoism have had magic since the start of the religion. Violence? Exorcism is about killing ghosts and demons already, is that violence to you? I see it as bringing justice to the world and not violence.
With the rust on that second sword you posted pics of you might give the demons tetanus. :eek:
[QUOTE=MasterKiller;1128231]Something odd about this…[/QUOTE]
hahahaha:D
[QUOTE=CYMac;1128052]This is a very good sword in my collection that I like very much. Posting to share. The sword is well build, sturdy, good weight but you have to know how to hold a sword right to enjoy it. Many kungfu masters who hold a sword wrong like the typical wushu “hold by the guard” method will get your hands all scrached and bleeding for sure because that’s not how you hold the sword right. Enjoy the sword photos!
This is sword no.1 Chun Gim.[/QUOTE]
I must say, it’s a very attractive cheap replica. Can you tell us, does it rattle at all when you shake it? If not, have you ever tried test-cutting with it?
Regarding the holding of a sword: both the “finger over guard” and “finger off guard” have been used in the past, depending on the swordsman’s method.
“Finger over guard” allows the fingers to assist in cutting by creating a fulcrum/functional pivot when the fingers squeeze the guard. I’ve seen methods that use either single-finger or double-finger grips over the guard.
Here is a close-up of a Yuan Dynasty painting where the swordsman is holding his sword with a double-finger grip over the guard.
[QUOTE=Xiao3 Meng4;1128248]I must say, it’s a very attractive cheap replica. Can you tell us, does it rattle at all when you shake it? Have you ever tried test-cutting with it?
Regarding the holding of a sword: both the “finger over guard” and “finger off guard” have been used in the past, depending on the swordsman’s method.
“Finger over guard” allows the fingers to assist in cutting by creating a fulcrum/functional pivot when the fingers squeeze the guard. I’ve seen methods that use either single-finger or double-finger grips over the guard
Here is a close-up of a Yuan Dynasty painting where the swordsman is holding his sword with a double-finger grip over the guard.[/QUOTE]
The sword is super sturdy, no rattling, no loosening, and I have been doing tons of heavy chops and slashes with it but not “cut” any objects since it is not a sharpened sword. I could sharpen it in the future and test, but I have sharpened some normal “taichi swords” from dragon well before myself and they can cut like crazy too, what’s the point? haha! Just keeping things safe at home… these are already good for what they are now. The sword is more solid and sturdy than most kungfu use taichi swords now too. The screws / assembly don’t get loosen over use with heavy strikes and chops. Which is good!
About the grip, I will not go into that discussion but if you have this word, you will not grip it like “finger over guard” for sure because it won’t work, you will scratch your hand badly and that’s fact for this case.
Btw, I don’t refer to paintings or pictures to “correct holding methods” because the painters can be wrong or the guy telling the painter to paint such a way could be wrong. “old” doesn’t means right too. So I suggest all the judge it yourself and if you hold a sword like this, you will know what’s right and what’s wrong by your own experience anyway, so.. no need to discuss anything, get one and test it yourself.
[QUOTE=CYMac;1128250]The sword is super sturdy, no rattling, no loosening, and I have been doing tons of heavy chops and slashes with it but not “cut” any objects since it is not a sharpened sword. I could sharpen it in the future and test, but I have sharpened some normal “taichi swords” from dragon well before myself and they can cut like crazy too, what’s the point? haha! Just keeping things safe at home… these are already good for what they are now. The sword is more solid and sturdy than most kungfu use taichi swords now too. The screws / assembly don’t get loosen over use with heavy strikes and chops. Which is good![/quote]
It’s good to hear that it’s sold tight and that it withstands forceful swinging. To be fair, I’ve never personally come across a Jian, even a cheap one, that rattled; however only some real test-cutting will reveal whether or not it can withstand the force of impact. Moreover, test-cutting is important not only for developing proper power but also (and more importantly, really) for developing proper technique. With good technique, the force needed to execute (pun intended) a successful cut is reduced dramatically. Even if you’re just using it to kill invisible, intangible opponents 
, I would think that you would have an interest in developing an effective cut - and test-cutting is the best way to do this. I recommend it. Before I started test-cutting, my cuts LOOKED effective, but I quickly learned that appearances can be deceiving after my first few cuts!
If you don’t want to sharpen your sword, then I suggest test-cutting pool noodles. Even an unsharpened cheapie Wushu sword will cut through pool noodles, and will give you an idea of how your technique is coming along.
About the grip, I will not go into that discussion but if you have this word, you will not grip it like “finger over guard” for sure because it won’t work, you will scratch your hand badly and that’s fact for this case.
With your sword, it’s understandable. The guard is not built with that method in mind. I’m assuming it’s the sharp corners of the guard that will scratch you (?) since the JianRen (Forte) of the blade is not meant to be sharpened anyway.
Btw, I don’t refer to paintings or pictures to “correct holding methods” because the painters can be wrong or the guy telling the painter to paint such a way could be wrong. “old” doesn’t means right too. So I suggest all the judge it yourself and if you hold a sword like this, you will know what’s right and what’s wrong by your own experience anyway, so.. no need to discuss anything, get one and test it yourself.
Art history is a valuable source of info. Consider the following:
As such, art history is not something to completely disregard - neither is it something to rely upon exclusively, either. It’s always good to examine things thoroughly from as many perspectives as possible, including testing it out for oneself.
As for myself, I do not use the “finger on guard” method and agree that YOUR particular sword does not lend itself well to such a method at all.
A kitchen knife is already sharpened, and so you use it to chop your meat and bones. Why do you need to “test” all the time? You learn from chopping “real”, not test.
Practise with sword with your proper techniques are already giving you a good cut movement, but cutting with a sword on object is more a Japanese style practice, not Chinese swords’ tradition. If you realize, human are not like bamboo or the rolled tatami that Japanese use for their sword cutting. For human flesh to cut apart, even with a 12 years old girl’s hand and a school use exacto knife.. it will cut apart with no skills. In the past, swords are use for fighting because it is a “weapon”, and so no matter how you cut, the sword is already lethal if is it made for the use. Now, not much swords are made for the use anyway because you don’t fight with them anymore. I know places like dragon well or cold steel makes swords that are “battle ready” but then it is not the same as what you can find in history anymore.
I have had a ching dynasty sword before that is sharpened, and it is not like anything you can buy now.
Chinese swords have methods and trainings to make your method right, and that’s not doing “test cutting”. If you find a good sword master, then you can ask them how to do so in a “Chinese sword way”. I will keep it quiet here for now.