Good site

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even keel

Darn, I was headed for bed.. but I want to take full advantage of our civility. (2:42am now.. I have to get up for work in a few)

“Do you always train fixed step push hands with a square stance?”
[no. that is just training of a kind of ‘wiggly’ gong. It’s is incredibly hard to maintain stability from that square position. But the training can come in very handy in an unexpected face off in a jammed pub! The neutralization is turned into an attack immediately… mostly replying on relaxation, posture and hip/waist turning. To have the ability to remain stable toe to toe in a square stance easily translates into any other foot work you’ll need.]

[We do a lot of moving push hands and sticky hands. Mostly Non cooperative… but rarely fixed-step. If anyone was interested in fixed-step competition, I’m sure Tim would teach them- but all of our stuff is geared to live action, mobile opponents. Fixed-step is only a training tool… it was never intended for sport- but it is far less dangerous for folks who don’t want to get dirty or injured.]

“-when the black guy was throwing punches the other guy was not sticking to them and attacking-”
[That black guy is Meynard. He’s actually Filipino, he’s going to love that one.]

[I can see how those clips are misleading. Tim, (the white guy with the spikey hair) is the teacher. Meynard (the black/Filipino) is one of the more scrappy students… Tim is letting Meynard attack.. and also learn to(try to) defend against Tim’s counters. The clips are not actually Tim fending off an attacker. It’s more like a Lion training a cub. The cub gets better and better- but the lion could snap him in half at anytime (they both respect that). Tim and I are the same weight but he hits like a Mac truck (although it looks like he’s just moving forward)…he is a big proponent of “move second/ arrive first” but if he did this all the time none of us students would ever learn anything but pain.

Those clips don’t show that because they are all just made by a guy taping a class. Tim’s not trying to prove anything in those clips… he’s not really thrilled about being on camera… he’s just training his students.

To your latest post- Thanks,I’ll check that link out later. I, too, got into Tai Ji without any martial intent.. later I met a teacher who was all about the martial side.. it was great. And he introduced me to Tim.

The beginers at ShenWu are throwing and submitting people the first night (most of them anyway).It is a shame that so many schools put off the fun stuff so long. I’m lucky that I’ve found teachers who teach the forms in conjunction with the applications… it makes the forms make SOOOOOOO much more sense.

I’m done.
By the time I check back in that pesky dragon will have misinterpreted all of this and will have posted several lengthy, nonsensical retorts to things neither of us ever posted… just wait and see.

Peace, love and crumpets.
Sum Guye (3:14)

[This message was edited by Sum Guye on 10-04-01 at 03:43 AM.]

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sum guye

I find it good that you can actually talk about your opinon in a civilized mannor and realize that everyone is entiltled to their own opinon! As I said before I do not wish to fight with you or anybody else on this forum. I use it for its actual basis, to ask/answer questions, discover new arts and their principles and generally talk about the thing we all love kung fu. Again I do not defend until I am attacked, and I beleive it was you who drew first blood, but no harm done lets just let sleeping dogs lay, even if their on our favorite slippers.

http://www.kungfuUSA.net

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Earth Dragon

remember when you posted this…

“you are right my opinon is wrong you are better and smarter than me!”

(on the ‘How to tell a good/bad instructor’ thread)

…don’t forget it.

Bruce Leroy- I’d forgotten all about that movie,
I’ll rent it this weekend if I have time… I hope its as funny as I remember it. I’m glad you liked the ShenWu site.

“now get in the bed and funk like folks is laughin’ at you” George Clinton

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WOOPS

Sorry guys - I should have asked if it was a good site not said it WAS a good site.

Seems to have started a good old barney though.

Have fun.

“We had a thing to settle so I did him”
Tamai, 43, was quoted by Police as saying.

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sum guye

the only reason I said that was to shut you up! but I guess it didnt work.
here’s one you might like… YOURE RIGHT see if that one works he he

http://www.kungfuUSA.net

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Sum Guye

Taking a slice of humbe pie here

I decided best way to form an opinion on something is to try it, so I tried your ‘wiggly gong’ with another student last night (cleared it with da boss first) and realised that what looks badly structured isn’t necessarily so. I actually enjoyed training it as it removes any competitiveness from pushing hands - some students are hard to train with as they view it as a win/lose situation. With the squared stance it becomes an interplay of energy with anyone who trains it.

My instructor liked it as well - he drew the same parallel as me, our seven-point body push trains the same thing but your way is more fun :).

“If ignorance is bliss, why aren’t more people happy?”

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Master Chen Lei

I have just read an interview with Master Chen Lei in the Martial Arts Illustrated October edition. He is so vague in his description of Tai Chi it’s unbelieveable. The only word hebandies about throught out the interview is Wushu (and always with the official “Taditional” stamp in front of it). His aim is to teach Wushu over the internet, so TRADITIONAL Wushu that is. Now I don’t wish to slam or slight the art that he does practise but, in my eyes it sounds like that his Tai Chi is not up to much. When he used the word Chi, it was non-contextual, and irrelevant. He mentions nothing of his Tai Chi lineage or masters or where it had come from. The article may of course been directed towards the editors own proclivities and interests, and Master Lei may of played up to this of course. But when the fact that he ahd learnt over 100 different forms, and this was seen as an acheivement I naturally thought “Yeah, but are you any good at any of them”? This is all a bit out of character for me, and I don’t usually slate people this much but the inital look at the site turned me off of it frm the start, and the recent interview I read confirmed it. I can say that from what I’ve read he certainly is NO Tai Chi Master, thats definite.

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Force comes from the bones; chin comes from the sinews.

I too went through / getting through the idea of holding a structure together based only on alignment.

“Standing like a balanced scale” really fits this idea.

return to the wheel of life, not ready yet

bamboo leaf