Does anyone know where I can order dit da jow ingredients that is reliable? I’ve seen Ancient Way Martial Art website. The 30 dollar package that has ingredient to make dit da jow. Is that good?
Any reliable source to get the ingredients are great appreciate it. Thank you!
He has the best stuff period. Just tell him what you’re looking for and he’ll hook you up. More bang for your buck as well.
ditto to shirkers1…I haven’t actualy tried it yet but I met Shifu Biggie and am making a purchase this week.
lol, sounds like a dope deal…
I just bought di da jow herbs from whitetigerkungfu.com, $20 + $5 shipping, makes 1 gallon of jow, I received it in a week. (from ca to east coast via usps)
why would a girl need di da jow?
For the same reason a boy would need it?
V,
What a total sexist remark. Again you prove to all here that your nothing but a clown. Keep it up brother as your not scoring any brownie points.
LOL…
Why not come out with “hey only women can practice the secret skirt kung fu and they do not need to beat their limbs against each other or bags of steel shot to condition themselves”…
Your trolling is slipping a bit.
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Dit Da Jao
A good point to remember:
There is not one Dit Da Jao for everything. Make sure you are buying a Jao for a specific type of training.
My late Sifu, Chan Tai-San was one of the Directors of the Chinese Herbal Medical Association in NYC. He was also an herbal doctor in the Chinese army. Although I do not know how to write a prescription for Dit Da Jao, I have several formulas for different types of training.
Types:
Generic: Good for Bruises, Sprains, Training of Forearms and Shins.
Palm: Used specifically for training of the Palm
Finger: Used for finger training (striking with tips of fingers)
Knuckle: Used to train all knuckle joints of the hand
Body: Used for “Pai Da Gung” or the Self Hit Skill of Iron Body Training
If someone tries to sell you a Jao that is ‘good for everything’, you are most likely buying some snake oil.
Joa, to be effective, must also be aged a specific time. Each formula must ‘sit’ in rice wine (Mi Jao) for anywhere between 30 days, 6 months or up to 1 year. It depends on the formula.
I personally have 2.5 gallons of Iron Palm Jao that has been ‘fermenting’ since the day I sealed the jar in March 1992! I can’t wait to use it!
If you expect to get results from your training, you must have the proper medicine. I’m not sure where these people get their formulas from, I would guess that some of them come from local Chinese Doctors. The only thing is that the Doctors making these formulas are not always martial artsists, and are usually just providing a standard ‘bruise’ medicine. Always ask about the source of the formula.
I have never sold herbs in their ‘raw’ form before. I guess I would if someone wanted them, but we have always sold it bottled up (4 oz. bottles). We sell one botle for $15 and 2 for $25. Depending on the application, they last for several months.
Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
PS, I am not an expert on Chinese Medicine. In fact, I have a limited working knowledge and I barely know what a lot of the individual ingredients do. I do know that it does take a special and specific knowledge to create a Dit Da Jao. Just because a Sifu is Chinese, and knows a bit about medicine, it does NOT mean he or she knows how to make a good Dit Da Jao, or several ones for that matter. Buyer Beware! Always get some background. And the old, “this formula has been passed down for centuries…” story doesn’t cut it.
I does amaze me that secrets passed down over the centuries can cost $15 to $25
blah blah blah … TTTH
No, not blah blah blah you clown.
Be a man and not the little boy pretending to be one.
Talk to the hand? What are you a Fran Drescher fan or something?
Your response shows us your true colors. A young untrained fool who hides behind silly arse abbreviations.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
I’ll talk to you any time V. You make me and others laugh. Ill give you points for that.
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
One gets strong through meditation and training. Dit da, concentration, time leads to good chi kung and good chi kung is the secret to true strength.
V, you stealing my words or what?
V,
Im impressed. You posted something that is relatively true. Though be careful with concentration. You can lead your yi the wrong way with too much of that.
Stand more and post less and your fu will progress leaps and bounds. That is if you have any fu. Most here would dare to say, not…
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Secrets
Hey, Dit Da Jao is not an ancient secret, anymore than Kung Fu is. But, we all can attest to the fact that there is good KF and bad KF. The same goes for Medicine. Some formulas are very advanced; they have complex combinations of herbs to produce specific results - specific to a specific TYPE of training. Others again, are nothing more than medicine to break up coagulated (I can’t spell) blood and help with Chi/Heih flow. Still others help to increase bone strength. Make sure your Jao is from a source that agrees with this philosophy. Disclaimer: I am not right about everything regarding KF, but I try not to speak about things that I am not extremely knowledgable or sure of. Use your own sense and ask lots of questions.*
Some ingredients are very hard to get (illegal) in this country. Rhino horn powder, Tiger bones, etc. In some cases, people subsitute these ingredients for others (might be weaker, not as good) that share similiar qualities. It can seriously effect the Jao.
I don’t sell raw herbs because some of the stuff is not legal. (Shhh) I don’t even have a formula where all the ingredients are legal. (Shh again!)
And as far as the price on bottles, I think it’s reasonable. I wouldn’t sell the formulas though. A sifu should provide thier students (at a reasonable price) the tools needed to train and to stay healthy.
Sifu Parella,
I agree with you that there are specific formulae for specific training. Way too many people bought into the Brian Gray one formula bit a while back. Not even a decent bruise formula it was.
Iron Hand/Palm medicine is totally different than a injury formula. They of course share some herbs(some hard to get in the US) but they also have different herbs for different actions.
Thanks for your input.
In Lama Pai do you ever use vinegar as a base for your jows? I have seen many Hakka as well as other southern arts use it instead of alcohol.
In Boston,
Dale Dugas
Please ignore vasquez he’s a turd burglar.
Lama pai has it right…
That is why I said to let mantisbxr@aol.com know what you need and what it’s for and he’ll set you straight… There are even different types of bruise medicine. Allergic mixes, hot mixes, etc. So there will be something for you just let him know what you are needing it for and he’ll get you the right stuff. You won’t be dissapointed…
Vinegar vs. Alcohol
Dale,
I have heard of some people using Vinegar, I think the Doo Wai, Jim Lacey people (bok fu pai) and I’ve read some stuff in magazines. From my limited knowledge of Chinese medicine and my Sifu’s extensive knowledge (I asked him the same question once) in NO WAY ARE YOU TO USE VINEGAR! Alcohol releases the essence or the quality of the herbs. Vinegar does not. I know some people do it different, but I will listen to what my sifu said. As I mentioned before, he was a doctor of Chinese medicine. And a very respected one at that.
Additionally, I hope everyone on this thread knows what Dit Da Jao means.
Dit - (Deet) To Fall
Da - (Da) To Hit
Jao - (Jow) Wine
Literally, Dit Da Jao is - “The medicine you use when you fall, or get hit.”
It is not Dit Da 'Vinegar" lol
Also, Chinese medicine itself is sometimes refered to as “dit da”.
Best of luck in your training!
I have used many jow receipes and my favorite is found on eBay. A store by the name of Shen Martial Arts sells a lot of different jows. They are all really good, but my favorite is called Shen jow. I love it!!! It is a very nice and smooth formula. You can by it premade, or the herbs to make 1 gallon. Personally, I like to make my own so I by the 1 gallon packs. The herbs are extrememly fresh too. When I first bought my first gallon pack, the herbs were very soft and fresh. I was used to hard and dry herbs and was a little worried, but I found out the fresher the herbs, the better the jow will be. Currently, I have 5 gallons of this jow brewing at my home for personal use. It is great stuff
Sifu Parella, do you feel there is a big difference between using the chinese wine and neutral grain spirits?
oso, not that I’m answering for Sifu Parella.. But here is what I’ve picked up so far and I could be wrong.. Best would be to ask mike himself or the person that is making the jow for you as to what you need to mix it with… Different formulas are geared towards different alcohol for mixing… I know mike uses seagrams 7 for his main batch of bruise medicine.. This stuff I have brewing now that is a very “HOT” mixture uses vodka…
I had some of that stuff on when I was at the Hu Lin seminar in akron and my arm was on fire the whole time.. I ended up having to wash it off because it was just too much after while..