Hi, folks! We just finished Sifu Eddie Chong’s new homepage. Sifu Chong teaches Fushan Bak Mei and Wing Chun. Feedback is welcommed! 
The address is:
Regards!
hey guys,
Have you ever met Chut-suk in Fatshan?
We’re having problems with the server. Hope to be up again in a few hours… :eek:
Chut Suk? I don’t know, maybe Sifu Chong knows him. I’d suggest to write him once the homepage is up again.
We’re on-line again! Hope you enjoy the page.
In Fatshan people call him ( Sifu Eddie Chong’s Bak Mei teacher ) Chut Suk.
Lee Yung Gien = Chut Suk? Didn’t know that one. But I also just started with Sifu Chong, so it’s not surprising I didn’t know. Anyways, hope you like the homepage.
As a new Bak Mei student, what’s the first form you have learned?
Sup Gee Kuen or Dan Fut?
d a m n Rolling hand is busting out the bak mei pop quiz. haha.
Paul = Poor ?
Don’t underestimate your target. Tnwingtsun made his first mistake by getting loopy. LOL…
Proceed warily and be ready for sudden surprises… Sil Nim Tao Vs Sup Bat Mor Kiu
Exactly.
Eddie Chongs bak mei
buddha fist,
hi there nice site i must say, although I seen eddie chongs bak mei on the weekend through a friend and its not bak mei its mixed with wing chun. Bak mei bong sau and 3 sun punches…come on?
i didnt see any fou, chum,tun, toe at all! The stances wasnt turned in like ive seen in bak mei can you please explain?
regards
FT
FT,
haha… you know you’re on shaky footing!
However, they are good questions.
Rolling Hand
hahaha! im not trolling just asking questions, although it sounds like i am. honestly just want some answers regarding my questions.
sil lum tao vs sup batt mor huh?
hmmm jik bo vs bil jee:D 
now thats fare! cya man…
FT, I’m not training yet under him Bak Mei.
As far as I know Sifu Chong doesn’t mix up the training of the two styles. Just attend one of his Wing Chun classes, they’re terrific. But if you know two styles, shouldn’t you be able to apply both of them depending on the situation/positioning (or however you want to call it) you’re confronting? You shouldn’t “freeze” because you can’t decide what to use, but rather flow freely. Probably this is what you have seen. His instruction is a lot about understanding combat in all its dimensions.
I understand and think a lot the same way in regards of keeping separate the different styles (honoring therefore their legacy), and that’s what I get in my class. I studied long before WT and I know that at the moment I’m getting pure Wing Chun. Once I’ll start in Bak Mei, I would be interested in getting exactly that in my class, but when it comes to practical application in the streets… At least I wouldn’t mind to apply both.
If you don’t like the way he sees it or the way I see it (which maybe isn’t the same), you don’t have to train with him. We’re all free to do what we like, as long as we respect each other. I’ve been around in some MAs in the last 15 years and I know that I’ll stay with his teachings, because they appeal to me and to a lot of my classmates.
I don’t represent his personal point of view, for that you’d have to talk with him. Just give him a call, he uses to be quite friendly to anyone who approaches him.
Regards!
buddha fist
thanks for the answer, fare enough as long as you are happy right!
have you seen any other bak mei schools forms?
regards
FT:)
Hi again FT!
No, I haven’t yet. Not because I don’t want to - I’m actually quite interested in doing it. It allows you to compare, know where you stand, value what you do and understand it better. Nothing worse than ignorance.
I’m still quite busy with my Wing Chun, and that will take me still a while…
Btw, the link to your own homepage doesn’t work… You said you were at the weekend in Sifu’s class. Must have been on Saturday. Just out of curiosity, how’s that possible if that class is not open to everyone?
Anyways, I’ll be still around here some time, just in case of more questions.
buddha fist
i seen him on video doing forms, and it was mixed with wing chun, even the salute is mixed! but as it says on his site he isnt related to clc bak mei?? what i seen of eddie’sifu doing bak mei was very soft and circular.
am i right here?
thanks mate
FT:)
FT
I guess that’s the reason. Just compare Pan Nam , Chi Sim and Yip Man Wing Chun. They’re quite different, but the difference doesn’t make less authentic any of these. Sifu Chong knows that there are other lineages around (see our homepage), he just represents the teachings he learned from his Bak Mei Sifu, Lee Yung Gien, and respects the other lineages.
If you ever happen to be in California, pay him a visit. I’m sure he’d be happy to talk with a fellow martial artist and share experiences.
Hmmmmm
Hey FT,
This always has confused me. History, unlike Kung Fu, is an oral /written concept.
The Legends:
Cheung Lai Cheun named a style without a name to bring it to secular practitioners from Monastic sources. So, anything that pre-dates Grandmaster CLC, even if the “same” style, would not be known as what he named it, but as it was called in the Monastaries, where it wasn’t named, or was it?.
CLC named it for the legendary character that “originated” the style as he was told, allegedly a Daoist, but CLC as an old man wore Buddhist robes. (no biggie, it’s commonplace to go between the two, but…)
CLC put much of himself as well into the style, it is a mix of what he was taught in the Monastary and what he learned as a proven fighter in his day.
Yet, some of his patterns are part of Fatshan Pak Mei taught by Sifu Chong, i.e. Sub Jie.
From a bigger picture, the basic fundamental techniques come from Southern short arm systems, which are possibly carried by Hakka peoples in their migrations around China, but the Pak Mei CLC brought out of the monastary is not the fundamentals, but the layers above. Did the monks have Hakka influence or did CLC teach a lot of Hakka in private, as I have been told, or both?
LIkewise, Fatshan Pak Mei claims links to Shaolin, the ancient (legendary) rivals of Pak Mei.
It would be nice to get some information that actually made logical sense of all this evidence and contradiction.
My Sifu knows about Fatshan Pak Mei, but not about it’s history. It isn’t a fabrication, I trust, but is it “Pak Mei” or another art with the same name and slightly different fundamentals?
Thank you sui-few
Originally posted by sui-fuw
.clc was problably the only person to bring it from h/k.not the be all and end all?and you put it in cantonese.now from what i learn is that pak mei cannot be learnt from any language apart from manderin and hakka.the cantonese fellows wern’t taugt the main version for they didn’t understand hakka and still don’t today.
Thank you for this post Sui-Few. You give credence to many theories I have heard from Hakka Chinese - Vietnamese Pei Mei practiioners.
I posted a threaf a while back concerning 2 fundamental different types of Pei Mei/Pak Mei. My theory was that HK Pak Mei is but one strand of Pak Mei, and that CLC and Co while in mainland China seemed to do things differently. History has made the HK Pak Mei the one that is most known , practiced and spread around the world, and hence a reference.
While I do not degrade it, (I am but one and they are many :-] ), I wish to explore the other flavours, as I believe at present that Pei Mei in Vietnam has NO connection to HK Pak Mei (except for some practioners in HK who latter went to Vietnam, but many years after it was originally introduced).
It may even be possible that Tang Hué Bac, the person who brought Pei Mei to Vietnam, alhtough he learnt from CLC, there may have been a whole bunch of people in those times (pre-HK) that practiced something different.
(Of course Tang Hué Bac of course added some things himself, etc. and I am aware that each generation imprints its own feel…).
Anyways, thanks Sui-Few. You clearly have some knowledge to share with me !