Its silly to post so much on a Sifu that reputation you only heard. Yes I agree it is fruitless for you to continue this thread. What are you defending? Sifu Yap reputation? You are not his student, he doesnt need your defending, and one can see he is a skilled master. Wuzu reputation? Wuzu doesnt need defending, it stands as a formidable MA. So what? Your point that wingchun is inferior to , Wuzu Quan, Ngor Chor Kun, Ngo Chor Kun or Five Ancestors Fist?
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My belief is Wingchun learnt just for self defence is formidable already, as master wong, bruce lee, leung ting, has proven all over the world.
My experience- My Wuzu brother who switched over later, had multiple nice exchanges, we agreed it was a draw. I would honestly say, it wasnt easy, because it was my first encounter with “Hard” hands, strong “Hard” structure. You can see what I mean from the Wuzu video. I was faster, but he was hard to larp, pak. And his close range punching could really floor you. My cultivation back then was not internal per se. Even if I lost, it was no big deal, he had 30 years of experience, but he graciously said it was a draw. I did get alot of ***** slaps in due to speed but without internal understanding it would have been hard to hurt him because of Wuzu Iron body conditioning Tiet Bo San. Later, I was taught the internal aspects of wingchun power, and I learnt chain punching isnt just flicking your hands rapidly into the air, connection of the whole body, rooting, power from ground up. Wingchun looks soft, but its subtle and penetrating and at times projecting, not like hard lik or hard jing.
I might have done some damage if I did a straight blast with my body behind the strikes attacking his face, but I wasnt there to do him in, as he wasnt as well, we are kungfu brothers.
What is the difference between white crane and Wuzu, San Chien? Why does Wingchun not have San Chien(if it descended from White Crane)? Or Santi from Hsing I? Now I know, Wingchun is not taiji, not Wuzu 5 parts power, not Choy Lay Fut, no Hung Kuen. Why dont we take silk reeling from taiji or add Pakua stepping to Chum Kil? It has its only internal mechanics and described in details by some Seniors on this forum for years.
I have never heard any of your claims on advanced wingchun or bong sao.
You can tell me to my face that 5 a is crap, thats ok, but if we touch hands and you loose would you say your wing chun is inferior? the proof is in the pudding.
If I lose when we touch hands, I AM INFERIOR, not Wingchun. I just have to train harder, then I will visit you again for another exchange. And if I beat you then, is Wingchun now proven superior? TCMA is about , self cultivation, making friends through the martial way, not stylist, styles and who is better. You dont have a clue about TCMA culture and have shallow views.
What security or criticism? Of course wingchun can take it, it is not invincible bullet blocking stuff. But it must be said by one who can qualify his answer with experience. You havent done that. You still havent said how long you trained in wingchun or which Sifu. I dont think its wingchun that has security issues. When you "challenge perceptions of the video on u tube", you must show why? show experience? Posting a master you idol, doesnt count as experience. You can tell us your real upfront experience or talk about Wuzu Internal Mechanics versus Wingchun Internal mechancis, thats good enough.
you wont asked me to get the list, out of respect for the tcma you will want to give face
You are talking nonsense here. What reference do you have of countless Sifus who have lost to Sifu Yap? From Youtube as well? You berate wingchun to boost Wuzu. You put down Wuzu other lineages to boost your admiration for Sifu Yap, whom you saw on youtube. And you talk about respect for TCMA?
Why many masters cross train? Who? Please state these masters names. How many are Yip Man? Or Bruce Lee? Or Wong Shun Leung? And here’s my answer, most are not original students of Yip Man or didnt spend enough time in Wingchun. Did you hear any students of Yip Man go learn Shui Chiao? Or Muay Thai? Or Boxing? Why did Wong Shun Leung turn to Wingchun over boxing? Why did Leung Sheung give up Dragon Boxing?
As you can see in Master Samuel Kwok videos, wingchun is very alive. Its very attentive in listening.
the main reason wing chun became popular was because of the bruce lee films in the 70s/80s more inclined to thank golden harvest, for the boom in the 70s.
The challenges of Yip man, and his students were hongkong entertainment tonight even before Bruce Lee learnt wingchun or the movies. He was even famous in guangzhou known as the 3 hero with Master Yuen and Master Yiu.
Bruce Lee died in 1973, his films were becoming famous in the late 60s/70s and before that he was becoming famous in Hollywood. In hongkong, Master Wong, Master Cheung etc…went about challenge matches all those years. Wingchun didnt stop in hongkong just because Bruce Lee went to the states
Seriously, you dont show you know much about wingchun, wingchun history or the physical mechanics- Then again I could be wrong, and I would stand corrected(please feel free to do so). Thats why and I “Speculate” you gave up. And that you can use things like bong sao as a reference point, advance wingchun etc…shows you dont understand the subject
You cant go to a boxing site, muay thai site or taiji site and say their art is crap, and expect not to be challenged on your points. You were not sharing an actual experience, you were putting down other arts to boost your view. My Wuzu brother still does wingchun and wuzu. He doesnt talk down about either art- It was his personal choice and I will ask him which lineage in Malaysia he comes from. And if its Chee Kim Thong, it doesnt mean anything about Wuzu and its reputation as a fighting art.
You were once part of the wingchun family too, just because you found another art you like doesnt mean you can be nasty about your previous. Its just common sense, grace and respect to your previous Sifu.
If you like Wuzu, all the power to you, but dont put down Wingchun. It has stood for years and many heros have spend decades spreading the art, thats why it is what it is today, one of the most popular TCMA in the world.
