[QUOTE=Knifefighter;816260]Of course you are in shape… you train BJJ.
Weren’t you the one making the gay abs comments earlier?
(not that there’s anything wrong with that)[/QUOTE]
BJJ…
It’s only gay if you make eye contact.
CLF is one of the styles Triads practice for those who don’t know. Alll fights don’t use guns. Sometimes you have to get up close and personal
In NYC most people know about razor blades in the mouth. Guys will fight you and call out numbers letting you know in advance how many stitches you’re going to get.
Here is a clip of a guy demonstrating razor fighting. Notice that he has another blade in his mouth with his talking and demonstration with the other blade. Anyone not aware of this should be if you’re ever in NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQJRqlgq1I
[QUOTE=sihing;816566]Doug,
Knifey really is in his 50’s, lol, maybe he’s over the hill and out of the loop:)[/QUOTE]
i can’t believe that a man in his fifties is that f ucking stupid i refuse to believe that. my granfather is in his early 90’s and he knows whats going on out there so no excuse.
CLF is one of the styles Triads practice for those who don’t know. Alll fights don’t use guns. Sometimes you have to get up close and personal
In NYC most people know about razor blades in the mouth. Guys will fight you and call out numbers letting you know in advance how many stitches you’re going to get.
Here is a clip of a guy demonstrating razor fighting. Notice that he has another blade in his mouth with his talking and demonstration with the other blade. Anyone not aware of this should be if you’re ever in NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQJRqlgq1I
thank you phil i’m trying to drill this into this morons head, so he can wake up.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;816544]Actually, you should feel sorry for yourself for hanging around with people who are stupid enough to walk around with razor blades in their mouths.[/QUOTE]
You don’t have to “hang around” with people to be affected by it. It’s simply a part of life in NY Dale. I guess life in L.A. is a lot safer. I put up a clip showing razor fighting.
If you ever come to NY and get into a scrap with someone you could be affected by it personally. And you can get into a scrap in NY by simply looking at someone the wrong way or bumping into them.
[QUOTE=doug maverick;816582]i can’t believe that a man in his fifties is that f ucking stupid i refuse to believe that. my granfather is in his early 90’s and he knows whats going on out there so no excuse.[/QUOTE]
He lives in L.A. Probably in some nice safe area . . lol
yeah but with the internet at your fingertips there should be no excuse for ignorance. like i said my 90 year old grandfather who lives in the mountians in louisianna(spelling??) knows whats going on. there should be no excuse for people to be that dumb epiecially in la cause thats where the razor blade in the mouth thing started.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;816577]CLF is one of the styles Triads practice for those who don’t know. Alll fights don’t use guns. Sometimes you have to get up close and personal
In NYC most people know about razor blades in the mouth. Guys will fight you and call out numbers letting you know in advance how many stitches you’re going to get.
Here is a clip of a guy demonstrating razor fighting. Notice that he has another blade in his mouth with his talking and demonstration with the other blade. Anyone not aware of this should be if you’re ever in NYC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQJRqlgq1I[/QUOTE]
I have heard about people keeping razor blades in their mouth. I heard about someone cutting their mouth really bad too. 
I could see how spitting it out would hurt someone.. but its really not a smart way to fight. I could see how hiding them and cutting people would be effective in your hand.. but then again you are going to cut yourself too. You are better off with a box cutter.. but honestly outside of a jail why bother with a razor blade? a small knife is WAY more effective. … besides if its self defense use a gun or a knife.
[QUOTE=doug maverick;816555]yea i have. my friend, razor blades is the weapon of choice for low level gang members who can afford guns but not bullets. again your showing you age my friend[/QUOTE]
LOL @ gangbangers running around with unloaded guns and razor blades in their mouths because they can’t afford bullets and then spitting them out and flipping them from hand to hand while fighting.
You want to know how that urban myth started? From guys trying to smuggle them into jail when being taken into custody.
Tell ya what… try walking around with razor blades in your mouth and trying to spit them out and use them next time you get into a fight.
You guys are the ones living in fantasy land.
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Da plane Boss, Da plane !!
Distinguished Hispanic gentleman with accent
I am Mr.Rorque, Welcome to Fantasy island !
[QUOTE=monji112000;816688]I have heard about people keeping razor blades in their mouth. I heard about someone cutting their mouth really bad too. I could see how spitting it out would hurt someone.. but its really not a smart way to fight. I could see how hiding them and cutting people would be effective in your hand.. but then again you are going to cut yourself too. You are better off with a box cutter.. but honestly outside of a jail why bother with a razor blade? a small knife is WAY more effective. … besides if its self defense use a gun or a knife.[/QUOTE]
If you train anything you can make it work. I’ve personally seen it work. I got to the City on weekend so if you live in the city I can see if I can get in touch with some guys to meet with us to show you how it works. You say it may not be a smart way to fight. I’m not going to argue that point but some are very good at it.
[QUOTE=Knifefighter;816699]LOL @ gangbangers running around with unloaded guns and razor blades in their mouths because they can’t afford bullets and then spitting them out and flipping them from hand to hand while fighting.
You want to know how that urban myth started? From guys trying to smuggle them into jail when being taken into custody.
Tell ya what… try walking around with razor blades in your mouth and trying to spit them out and use them next time you get into a fight.
You guys are the ones living in fantasy land.[/QUOTE]
I first saw this “fantasy” performed by my stepson who is now in jail for murder. I’ve seen fights where razors were used to slice people’s faces and wrists. It’s amazing how you can call what I’ve seen fantasy though you’ve never seen it. Rahsun has told me some stories about people from L.A. and I always said to not stereotype people but now I may have to agree with him. I don’t believe in fantasty. I’m in the real world
Dale, since you know everything that goes on in the hood and I have no clue there is no since in my contiuning this dialouge with you.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;816704]If you train anything you can make it work. I’ve personally seen it work. I got to the City on weekend so if you live in the city I can see if I can get in touch with some guys to meet with us to show you how it works. You say it may not be a smart way to fight. I’m not going to argue that point but some are very good at it.[/QUOTE]
thanks thats not my crowd. If you wanted to get a pint of guinness and go to a punk show I would consider it. Anyway this time of the years is very tough, with papers, finals, ect..
I am sure people fight with razor blades and I am sure they cut people bad.. I stand behind the fact that a small knife with a handle is probably more effective (this coming from someone who knows nothing about knife fighting). Its just logical that you are going to cut yourself, most of all juggling them ..
From what I’ve been told allot of jail fights have weapons that are similar to ice picks or trench knives. I talked to someone who had a fight with a sock filled with soap one time in jail. I have seen people hiding them in their mouth, back in high school. Like I said someone got cut really bad.. Hey in jail they use anything they have doesn’t mean its the most effective. Honestly outside of jail just shooting someone seems more effective. But hey what do i know? I never shot anyone or cut anyone. (probably never will thank G-d). Anyway I enjoy shooting much more than playing with knives.:eek:
I will add that a nameless person was showing me some FMA using pak saos and a small blade.. wow some nasty stuff. BUT, I have yet to see something that would really defend against a realistic knife attack. Best bet RUN.
I think Dales more in to a "West Side Story " gang fights , take it away Dale ..when your a jet…
you see i don’t personally no anyone who walks around like that. but i’ve seen it and experienced it so i’m just talking about it. i never said the guns were unloaded knifefighter aka dale the moron who is gonna end up dead in the streets from being so **** stupid. but whatever your big and bad and you can whup anyone on the streets whatever. your just one of those forum guys who talks lots of ish and can’t back it up. your worthless man and i’m done arguing this point with you.
[QUOTE=doug maverick;816772]you see i don’t personally no anyone who walks around like that. but i’ve seen it and experienced it so i’m just talking about it. i never said the guns were unloaded knifefighter aka dale the moron who is gonna end up dead in the streets from being so **** stupid. but whatever your big and bad and you can whup anyone on the streets whatever. your just one of those forum guys who talks lots of ish and can’t back it up. your worthless man and i’m done arguing this point with you.[/QUOTE]
yah Dale knows nothing about fighting.. I know nothing about computers… So what have you done that makes you any better then the rest of us morons on the forum?
There are lots of imaginative people running round in the world.
I have personally found stilletoes and small caliber guns disguesed as ballpens.
Once I was almost shot by a fake cellphone which turned out to have 3 oneshot barrels inside.
As to wether razors are used as described. I have no clue but if it is indeed used in jails. then it would stand to reason that the same persons would also use it outside as they will then be familiar with that type of weapon. Being the smartest thing or not. Personally I think its a dumb**** method, and I agree with monji and KF that your more likely to hurt yourself then others.
Why does it not surprise me that a bunch of WC guys buy into the fantasy of people walking around with razor blades in their mouths. Tell ya what… try walking around like that for a few days like that and let me know how it works out for you.
I guess fighting with razor blades in your mouth would be the WC way of fighting with edged weapons. There are much more efficient ways, like using a couple of Benchmade or Spyderco tactical folders, but you know those WC guys- always trying to find the stupid way.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;816577]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQJRqlgq1I[/QUOTE]
Thanks Phil, that’s a good one. I don’t know about this so next time I come to NYC I’d know ;). It might actually be a good idea to start a thread somewhere so that we can all share the “nasties” that we have heard of or encountered so we could better prepare for the reality of confrontations.
The thing is, because most of the contributors in the forum are law abiding citizens, we very often do not think of all the nasty surprises we could get when we are faced with life threatening situations. I do believe “real” martial art training, not “sport” martial art training, helps. Because in real MA training, we learn not only just the fighting applications, but the whole philosophy of life preservation and how to avoid confrontations. Real martial arts evolved from survival, and I am sure in the old days people are just as nastie if not more.
I don’t believe in being a hero. Sure, there are times when we have no choice but to fight, but I have yet to see a real fight that only the loser(s) gets injured and the victor(s) gets out without a scratch. As long as we get sucked into the process, it is just a matter of who is losing more.
So my motto is, walk away whenever possible. You just do not know what the other guy has up his sleeves. And if we do have to fight, use all the strategy and enviroment to keep the confrontation to the minimum. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Seeing Phils’ post consolidates my view.
Live long and properous and you’d be the ultimate winner!
Cheers,
John