Sounds like you came across an intelligent martial artist, 7*. The world needs more of them.
Tradition is only what you’re taught. It don’t go no further than that. :eek:
Wanna groundfight? Train it.
Don’t wanna groundfight? Stay out of fights.
The only way that kung fu will become more prevalent in sport fighting is if there is a bareknuckle event that requires no pads at all. People who want to fight with kung fu want to represent the style and that can be difficult with the pads (be it an excuse or otherwise).
even if things like insurance and regulation commissions weren’t an issue… how many people would actually show up and partake in such events?.. and IF such “deadly” technique ACTUALLY work… after the first crop of fighters get maimed or killed… who next?.. realistically how long would this last?..
Originally posted by Suntzu
even if things like insurance and regulation commissions weren’t an issue… how many people would actually show up and partake in such events?..
raises hand OOOH!! OOOH!!! I can answer that one!!!
very few.
and IF such “deadly” technique ACTUALLY work… after the first crop of fighters get maimed or killed… who next?.. realistically how long would this last?..
raises hand OOOH!! OOOH!!! I can answer that one too!!!
None.
boys and girls, children of all ages, history is our friend!
back in a place called China in 1927, the government had it’s first official national sparring championship in Nanjing (that’s a city)
a few funny things happened
no one blew up due to deadly chi blasts
no one was knocked out with hidden death touches
most of the successful guys basicly kicked punched and wrestled
after one round of the event, everyone was injured enough they didn’t want to continue
so they voted on who they all thought would have won
now, these were hard core old school guys, but after one round of no equipment fighting they were all banged up and didn’t want to continue
you think the average cream puff US student is going to do it better? :rolleyes:
Are you familiar with any of the fighters that participated? If so, out of curiosity, how do you think they would stack up against the mma guys that are big today?
its not TCMA the MMA crowd hates, its the type of people on this thread who practice TCMA they hate
Originally posted by brassmonkey
its not TCMA the MMA crowd hates, its the type of people on this thread who practice TCMA they hate
well said! i dont practice any form of TCMA or MMA and i hate most of these people . hehehe
This was China we were talking about, so most would have been way small for an old style UFC open weight thing. My teacher was considered “big” at 160 lbs. I think they would have surprised a lot of guys, especially as they all did Shuai Jiao and would have known how to wrestle, throw and defend in the clinch. Some of teh wilder MMA types would have eaten the straight punches, my sifu fought in the 1940’s against a Hsing Yi guy in Canton who basicly straight blasted and said that since he only practiced two puches every day 7 days a week, he hit HARD 
Back towards what 7* was saying..
I encounter that a lot more than I’d like to admit…
don’t get taken down..
:rolleyes:
I’d love to continue to call myself a tcma, but I do want to get some time in with some mma type guys, and learn some ground work, but the thing is, right now, I am very time prohibitted…
Originally posted by norther practitioner
[B]Back towards what 7* was saying..
I encounter that a lot more than I’d like to admit…
don’t get taken down..
:rolleyes:
I’d love to continue to call myself a tcma, but I do want to get some time in with some mma type guys, and learn some ground work, but the thing is, right now, I am very time prohibitted… [/B]
When you spar in class, and someone falls or gets thrown, what do you guys do? Follow them and try to submit, or wait for them to get up?
Originally posted by MasterKiller
When you spar in class, and someone falls or gets thrown, what do you guys do? Follow them and try to submit, or wait for them to get up?
how about kick them in the head, or stomp on them? 
Originally posted by lkfmdc
[B]
how about kick them in the head, or stomp on them? [/B]
Well, that too.
I guess I was just asking if the action stops when someone or both people hit the ground.
We keep going. While our grappling is no where near BJJ status, at least it gives me some hands-on experience, and I get some trial and error work.