It cracks me up to read so many posts here by peeps that seem to think that MMA will outlive TCMA. Peeps, its a fad. TCMA has endured communist repression, the kick boxing fad, the ninja fad and it will out last the MMA fad.
I am not against MMA by any means. It is a great sport. It has renewed the masses interest in martial arts. But it isn’t the be all end all that some peeps think it is. It too shall go out of vogue. And when it does TCMA will put it to bed, turn out the light and go do what time tested arts do, continue to train.
It cracks me up to read so many posts here by peeps that seem to think that MMA will outlive TCMA. Peeps, its a fad. TCMA has endured communist repression, the kick boxing fad, the ninja fad and it will out last the MMA fad.
I am not against MMA by any means. It is a great sport. It has renewed the masses interest in martial arts. But it isn’t the be all end all that some peeps think it is. It too shall go out of vogue. And when it does TCMA will put it to bed, turn out the light and go do what time tested arts do, continue to train.
Rant off.
haha want to watch the fire works or something?
Anyways, i’ll disagree with you, I believe its the next evolution of TMA’s. TCMA etc. I think people have gotten smarter in there search for MA’s in the last years. They now see that to get complete MA’s you need to learn the whole spectrum.
I’m not going to say that my first love wasn’t TCMA but things change and the landscape of the TCMA/TMA has changed as well and is being absorbed.
It is a slightly less scripted derivative of Professional Wrestling.
It can be entertaining but it usually just ends up with two guys laying on the ground hugging each other.
Really though, right now what else is there? Boxing is basically dead unless it can get its **** together and unify everything, which will never happen. The super six is an interesting idea, but even so, the cross organization promotional politics just eff everything the hell up.
As for the current state of Chinese martial arts; if it isn’t wushu doing figure skating routines on the ground in silk pajamas, it is pretty much a bunch of pimply faced LARPers waving their arms around.
In conclusion; it all sucks, watch football instead.
[QUOTE=wenshu;1041980]It is a slightly less scripted derivative of Professional Wrestling.
It can be entertaining but it usually just ends up with two guys laying on the ground hugging each other.
Really though, right now what else is there? Boxing is basically dead unless it can get its **** together and unify everything, which will never happen. The super six is an interesting idea, but even so, the cross organization promotional politics just eff everything the hell up.
As for the current state of Chinese martial arts; if it isn’t wushu doing figure skating routines on the ground in silk pajamas, it is pretty much a bunch of pimply faced LARPers waving their arms around.
In conclusion; it all sucks, watch football instead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1041972]haha want to watch the fire works or something?
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Yep, couldn’t wait to see peeps panties getting tied in knots!
Seriously though, what evolution? Now peeps think it is wise to go to the ground in a street defense situation? Most schools I know of have trained to fight grapplers WITHOUT going to the ground. Why fight their fight? Yes, you should understand HOW they fight, but it doesn’t mean you need to do it.
Realize that I trained in jujutsu decades before it was cool, way before it was a fad. It has its strengths, but it has its weaknesses too. TCMA ppeps should learn to exploit the weaknesses rather than changing their fighting style to accommodate the fad.
BTW, I posted this originally in the Kung Fu forum because that was the audience I was addressing. Whoever moved it here now makes it look like I was trying to start a flame war, which I wasn’t.
MMA has been popular since the early 90’s and has been a testing ground since the 70’s.
Just looking at its modern competitive format, it’s been around for a good 12 years and is part of mainstream TV and sports for a good, oh, 8 years at least, if not more.
Can it still be called a Fad ?
[QUOTE=SoCo KungFu;1042036]It cracks me up how many people fear change to such a degree that they deny the truth glaring in their faces…TCMA is almost as bad as religion…[/QUOTE]
I do think that tcma will find an in to it and is already looking with san shou.
I think it’s silly to proclaim yourself a martial artist without actually having fought or without actively fighting or without understanding that fighting is the project.
Otherwise, stick to qigong and yoga like us old guys.
Seriously though, what evolution? Now peeps think it is wise to go to the ground in a street defense situation? Most schools I know of have trained to fight grapplers WITHOUT going to the ground. Why fight their fight? Yes, you should understand HOW they fight, but it doesn’t mean you need to do it.
Realize that I trained in jujutsu decades before it was cool, way before it was a fad. It has its strengths, but it has its weaknesses too. TCMA ppeps should learn to exploit the weaknesses rather than changing their fighting style to accommodate the fad.
BTW, I posted this originally in the Kung Fu forum because that was the audience I was addressing. Whoever moved it here now makes it look like I was trying to start a flame war, which I wasn’t.
if something doesn’t find evolution it becomes stagnet and dies. No one is saying that you need to go to the ground in a street fight. I hate the BJJ nutriders as much as the next guy. But you have to look at the blinding reasoning behind MMA, it is evolution, behind grappling, behind clinch work, behind wrestling, it has it’s place in the MA’s as much as tcma does. I do not look down upon TCMA, in fact my first love of MA’s was in the TCMAs. But I get tired of the pajama wearing “masters” taking money and teaching crap. Enough crap to get someone killed in a “real” fight. I also get tired of the douchbag mma wanna be, tapout wearing, I’m a bada$$ because i go once a week to a mma gym, that goes out and starts a fight because he thinks he has something to prove. It’s a 2 way street in this affair.
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1042161]I also get tired of the douchbag mma wanna be, tapout wearing, I’m a bada$$ because i go once a week to a mma gym, that goes out and starts a fight because he thinks he has something to prove. It’s a 2 way street in this affair.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I think you are being too generous there. I can actually give respect to someone who only trains once per week because of work, college, family, or religious commitments.
I would like to think the person you are describing is everything you stated, BUT doesn’t train at ALL. Plus, add that he watches UFC pay-per-view events televised at a sports bar & grill, gets nice and hammered; and then he starts a fight because he thinks he has something to prove.
