Do you use a backfist a lot?

A lot? Or ever? When sparring/fighting? Do you use it as a lead or in the middle of a combo?

Discuss.

yes and usually after blocking to start a combo vs. leading or middle.

though i suppose i do those as well. it’s been a little while.

i never actually do a spinning back fist while sparring but i think about it sometimes.

I have a fast snappy backfist that makes a popping noise when the open hand closes at impact.

It’s showy to impress ppl but I don’t see much use for it. It lacks power, and the way it’s not completely straight (although I make it as straight as possible and do not chamber it at all) makes it easier to block than a jab or straight.

I’d only use it if my target is to my side and i cannot shift to face head on in time.

I never use it but I do wonder why it is banned in some kick boxing.

back fist to the face is pretty fast but what I really want is for them to block so I can then grab their blocking arm.

I use it as kinda like general move for sweeping or covering the line in order to pickup what ever it is he happens to be doing. Also for covering while I switch leads, or to grab onto things (or at least some kinda bridge…) After any other punch, you can roll that arm/hand into a backfist with or without any sort of stepping/footwork. Its a primary movement in nearly any drill that we do, empty handed or with sticks or knives. There are also arm wrenches, levers, and my favorite: destructions - that arise out of the backhand motion.

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no.

i favour jabs, hooks and crosses moreso than any other punching attack.

cheers

Backfist is pretty fast, but also pretty weak. Tactically, if you’re in a position to backfist your opponent, you’ve probably got both hands on the same side of him, and if you can reach his face with your backfist, he’s probably able to reach the back of your head with a stronger technique, like those KL mentioned.

In other words, if you’re about to throw a backfist, it may be that you’re in a tight spot because of poor footwork and are throwing it out of desperation. Spinning backfists - I dunno. As I’ve said before, I don’t want to turn around when I’m fighting for any reason. Just seems like too much opening.

More importantly, I think, is the structure of the backfist. It doesn’t actually stop anything. A jab will interrupt forward movement. A backfist will not–it’s too easy to fold it up at the elbow.

Not a big fan of it. I suppose it has its uses, but I don’t like it…

I think it had it’s biggest use in the seventies point sparring karate era!..A flicky jumping backfist to the top of the head and you won! :rolleyes: :wink: Ah memories! :wink:

I’ve personally never been in a situation where a jab was not a better choice than a back fist.

I like the basic backfist from Isshinryu in place of going from side to side with it. I don’t like closed-fist strikes to the head, so this helps out just fine.

what about striking to cheek bone just below the eye or the eyebridge? These would cause the eye to shut wouldn’t they?
If you were bareknuckle you could also open a cut in either place which would further hinder vision.

I think the difference is that the backfist will stop forward movement if they react to it but not if they don’t.

i just use it as the start of a series.

to further describe my initial comment:

if I back fist to the head with my lead hand and they block with the same hand then that gives me the opportunity to stick to that wrist and trap the arm allowing me the opportunity to enter on that side with less resistance.

a back fist with a full boxing glove would be pretty much useless.

I use a backfist from time to time. They work well in combos and will use them to set up a mid level kick or a sweep.

As for the snappy back-fists in point sparring; it’s nothing a good side-kick won’t cure! :smiley:

I don’t use it. I prefer the jab.

Someone I knew told me at a tae kwon do school that used to be here , their friend got hit pretty bad by a spinning backfist and quit the school. In muay thai they do spinning back elbows

I wasn’t talking about spinning backfists. I forgot to mention that.

Old Jong sez:

!..A flicky jumping backfist to the top of the head and you won! Ah memories!

Nasty Anderson!!
Where are they now…

Originally posted by SevenStar
I don’t use it. I prefer the jab.

I love the jab, but the two techniques do not have to be mutually exclusive. I find that a backfist in conjuction with a side-step will set you up for a good leg-technique in a way that a jab can’t. It’s just a different tool to use.