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At 1.38, when you use right “hammer fist” on your opponent’s left arm, your opponent can borrow your force and sping his left arm into a hook punch at your head.
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Not if the hammerer sinks in with the elbow, or if it is done with high power, or isolates his elbow… At combat speed the switch your suggesting is indeed possible but much easier said than done…every move is counterable…thats the art.
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IMO, this will never work in combat speed. The reason is the hammer fist has to travel much longer path than a jab. If your hammer fist can hit on your opponent’s arm when he applies a straight punch, you must be much faster than him. If you are much faster than your opponent then anything will work. [/QUOTE]
Applied against a Jab for conveniance of demonstration only… there are many situations where your hands form contact without it being that the opponant is jabbing, not to mention prediction. Its the throw i wouldn’t use, the entry is great and very powerful. Power and speed, you can’t always have both.
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There is a good reason that “hammer fist” is not commonly used in the western boxing. It’s just too slow to be combat realistic. What’s your opinion on the “hammer fist”?[/QUOTE]
Za Chui in chinese kung fu (Pound/smash/break—hammer/pound/strike) the hammer fist.
THe videos aren’t great demonstrations. The hammer fist is however an essential technique.
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Typically there is no distinction in the form between elbow za chui and fist za chui and the elbow version is a great technique.
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SLower?? Every joint in the human body is circular, your saying combining them into an awkward approximation of a straight line is faster than arcing straight through? It may appear faster in after it has been set in motion but it is not in reaction and preparation time.
Picture an example of your hand is held high and his face is ducked slightly, low. In this situation your hand is above its target… in order to punch straight you would have to withdraw the hand, prepare it then punch out, forming a parabolic motion. If you simply arc down it will be much faster.
Remember with Za CHui you don’t have to ‘chop’ you can still hit with your knuckles just on a circular path, not as powerful as a straight but much faster (from certain starting positions).
ITs true that the fastest way between two points is a straight line, but there are many positions in which a small arc will form a much straighter line then a straight punch. In terms of body mechanics there can be no truely straight punch as every joint has circular motion. Straights can be done from a much smaller range of prepared hand positions. In combat you don’t always manage to keep your hands within these zones, once outside, they must be returned before the punch can be made, its this bit that is slow.
Western boxing keeps the hands within a smaller zone so is best to use straights, but western boxing only includes punching. When you add the kicks the throws and all the other moves the hands can no longer remain in such a small zone and the hammer becomes more necessary. Its not because its slow, its because it works from different positions.
