http://www.hongluck.org/dp_found.htm
Any info?, this is very interesting as i do HopGar!.
http://www.hongluck.org/dp_found.htm
Any info?, this is very interesting as i do HopGar!.
http://www.pantherfist.com/immortal.html
I believe the Taoist system being referred to here is Tao Pai.
Do Pai is a Toishan based style mixed from the styles learned by the founder a little of Hop Ga, Hung Kuen, Jow Ga. Rich in southern flavor. Good hok shan lion dancing they also do.
mono68,
Jow Ga and Do Pai you refer to are two seperate/different systems founded by two different persons. Also Do Pai is not derived from Jow Ga
The founder of Jow Ga “Jow Lung” has no ties to Do Pai system
however Jow Ga was founded on the principles of combining
Choy Ga which is the precurser to Choy lay Fut, Bak Si Lum, and Hung Gar:cool:
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I Need more info pertaining to its HopGa
some weblinks to masters of this style would be great, renegade monk you wrote that jowga isnt init, you seem so sure so tell me about do pi/tao pai?, also the creator GM Chan Dau it says he was one of the ten tigers of guangdong/canton?“same thing right?” so he must be famous, and anyone who has any REAL kf knowledge i would think would know of He, at least if you bill yourself as knowledgeable on kf of chinas south:)
Diego,
Where in my post did I bill myself as so knowledgable. I’m making statements on the system I study Jow Ga that is all.
I’m just informing mono68 that Jow Ga and Do Pai are seperate systems that is all I know. I nothing about the Do Pai history so I can’t make presumptions on that.
I do know my systems history in that Jow Ga was founded in Sau Fu villiage around 1915 which makes it a very young system by Jow Lung who in turn passed it onto his four brothers one of those brother Jow Biu passed Jow Ga to Chan Man Cheung who then passed it onto my Si Jo Dean Chin that taught my Sifu Raymond Wong until his death in 1985 and I am a direct student of Raymond Wong.
Let me ask you this to help you if I can when was Do Pai founded Diego? if it was founded before 1915 that would make it pretty obvious that Do Pai could not be derived from Jow Ga
Basically every villiage in Canton had a version of some sort named after the orginal Ten Tigers. Jow Ga’s being “Ng Fu Jow”
Five Tigers of the Jow Family.
I really think you have the systems confused, and I’m just trying to help clarify some info for to help your search.
If you would like some Jow Ga links let me know I’ll be more than hapy to post them for you.
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My apologies if my Kungfu knowledge, or lack thereof offends you;)
so who do i goto when moderators hijack my threads:D
i think it was founded in 1941?, i think it blends with hungga hopga choylifut and some internal?, i knew jowga wasnt init, as the site never made mention, the way you wrote in your first post, sounded like you knew about do pi, but just corrected mono,
but forgot to add info on do pi:p
so who do i complain to about mods jakn posts/JK!
im searching for this style, so could you save me alot of time!, would you post The Official JowGa urls?, and i’l get the general ones from thier links.
Thanks
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EH i posted and went to the washroom
you edited now my post looks like im drunk:D
RM:
in the site it refers to Chan Dau studied under a Chow Lung in translating J and Ch are the same. Also I know they are two differwent systems, But this founder studied and combined the styles. not to say it is Hop Ga, Hung Kuen, Jow Ga seperately. read his bio once again.
I’ll post more for you when I get back from practice but here are two for you.
http://www.wongjowgakungfu.com/sifuwong.htm
http://www.jowga.com.au/jowga_frame.html
these should tie you over for a while hope they help
who are the tentigers in your lineage?, every villaga had a version- is that they thiers many lists of whos in the 10 tigers, or they had a style cliaming ties to to them?.
Chan Dau would later make contact with his family, and also furthered his studies under Leung Kwai and Chow Lung.
whos Leung Kwai?
and whos that fishmonger guy they mention?
Dao Pi is a taoist martial art, it comes from the Mu Dong Temples.
IT was not founded in 1941, it is much older than that at least a
couple hundred years. I’ll try to find out when.
ttt
Chan Dau
Chan Dau was a very famous Hung Ga practitioner during the 1950’s. He is shown in several of the Wong Fei Hung memorial anniversary pictures that many schools have. He was also famous for several feats of strenght that he would display during public exhibitions.
Chan Dau was not one of the Gwongdong Sup Fu. He became famous much later than the Canton 10 Tigers.
Peace
Je Lei Sifu
Diego:
Leung Kwai was a CLF sifu. He learned from Chan Koon Pak (Chan Hueng’s son) and Cheong Hung Sing (Jeong Yim). He was one of my sifu’s sigung’s.
Peace.
MD1 Perhaps Thier is two styles dopi from chan dau circa 1941 in hongkong, and tao pai the taoist style you mentioned, i say this as its not new in martial arts for one to rearange history towards his curriculum, But as JuLei mentioned Master Chan Dau in HungGa circles is Regarded!, ? What do you think?, Also can you tell me more about Tao Pai?.
JuLeiSifu, are these pictures on the net?. So, I Know who is Leung Kwai, Who is Chow Lung, & Is Charn The FishMonger that BakMei Master?, & Any Info on Canton’s “Four Mad Fighters.”
After two years at the temple, Chan Dau returned to Canton with help from his new mentor.
Unable to find his family in Canton, Chan Dau was forced to become a peanut-peddler to earn a living. One day, Chan Dau participated in a martial arts exhibition in the streets of Canton, and impressed the students of Charn the Fish-Monger. Chan Dau became a student of the Fish-Monger, and quickly gained a name for himself as one of Canton’s “Four Mad Fighters.”
Jow Lung was the founder of the Jow Gar style in believe or at least he was one of the 4 brothers of the founder.
Peace
Right that is what Renegade monk mentioned:) , any idea about the fishmonger?, and these guys-Canton’s “Four Mad Fighters.”
they sound pretty crazy - mad:rolleyes: ![]()
Diego, maybe your right there could be two different styles. my sifu is a grandmaster in Dao pi and Mu Dong. He had alot to do with the Hong luck school back in the 60’s & 70’s, and he didn’t learn from master chan dao. I can find out more the next time i’m in toronto if you like.