How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work…aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150135]How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work…aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?[/QUOTE]
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everything you ask here is in it.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1150137]take a look at my playing with 5 layers clip.
everything you ask here is in it.[/QUOTE]
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slt, chi hung and a few tai chi exercises for me
Yang Jwing Ming has a lot of books out on Chi, I suggest starting there, or Mantak Chia books.
So, what is qi? How to cultivate qi? What is it do for Jin or force vector?
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1150191]So, what is qi? How to cultivate qi? What is it do for Jin or force vector?[/QUOTE]
Qi or Chi is your lifeforce your born with. It is your breathe you take each day…you accumulate chi from breathing, from exerting effort and sweating, from eating and drinking. When you jogg or fight you accumulate chi because your body requires more oxygen it takes in more to nourish the body meaning you accumulate more breathe or life energy. Your Meridian Channels have microcosmic water ways that warm when your body temperture rises…Like water they evaporate and become a mist. Mist is air or breathe thus causing more Chi.
Jin, Shen and Yi is the vehicle for which your Chi travels…Your Shen dictates if the chi is good or bad…if your shen is negative your chi will be corrupted…if your shen is happy your chi will be good. The Yi is your intention you can not move chi with out it. Just as you can not move your hand with out your Yi. So it is with chi. When you direct your Yi to move your chi it goes. When you want to use chi to hit someone it must be accompanied with Jing. With out Jing it is simply Yin and Soft power by it self has no power…Hard power by itself is too stiff and can not release. Your Chi is the relaxation with in the hard…Hard and Soft combined is powerful. An when it release the intended result is realize.
Jing Chi and Shen are the three treasures
As for Force Vectors…according to my understanding…Force is the Jing or power you expel out to your opponent…Vectors are the direction to that force…You can draw them in with a jut sau, you sink or draw them down with jum sau, you can force them away with butterfly palms, you can strike them on their left and right gate with shifting horse and punch or lop sau while shifting your central line causing their center turn. These are merely one example…my opinion of how i use it…But there are more an various different ways one may achieve them with punches or kicks or chin na…its up to you…But i think of it forwards, backwards, to the side, up and down! When you sink you breath in, When you uproot you breath out, when you pull in while stepping back you breath in. When you push out while moving forward you breath out. Side Steps also can be used to flank your opponent an capture the other two vectors…Standing Still if you will marks the place of origin or the vertex if you will…So standing still in my opinion marks the seventh vector!
Thanks and appreciate for sharing!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150135]How do you cultivate chi?[/QUOTE]
When you train XingYi for
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cultivate Chi, you don’t use force when you punch. This way you can breath slowly. When you pull your punch back, you need to use your force and inhale deeply. It’s light out and heavy in. Also light exhale and deep inhale, and long exhale and short inhale.
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combat, you need to exhale and you don’t have luxury to inhale. The moment that you inhale, the moment that you may expose your weekness to your opponent.
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150135]How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work…aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?[/QUOTE]
Drink Red Bull " it gives you wings" That sound like chi to me..
[QUOTE=stonecrusher69;1150231]Drink Red Bull " it gives you wings" That sound like chi to me..[/QUOTE]
So it is…You gain or increase your chi by what you drink and eat!!!
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150220]When you train XingYi for
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cultivate Chi, you don’t use force when you punch. This way you can breath slowly. When you pull your punch back, you need to use your force and inhale deeply. It’s light out and heavy in. Also light exhale and deep inhale, and long exhale and short inhale.
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combat, you need to exhale and you don’t have luxury to inhale. The moment that you inhale, the moment that you may expose your weekness to your opponent.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting and like the analogy…So this practice how do you feel it moves your chi…in what way…Also the pulling back force hard…do you see this as training your jerking power or jing more?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150235]Very interesting and like the analogy…So this practice how do you feel it moves your chi…in what way…Also the pulling back force hard…do you see this as training your jerking power or jing more?[/QUOTE]
Chi to me is breathing. The cultivating Chi is only to make your body strong. It’s indirect to combat but not direct. The XingYi system does’t have Chi Gong. The solo form training is the Chi Gong. You build your body from outside in.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150238]Chi to me is breathing. The cultivating Chi is only to make your body strong. It’s indirect to combat but not direct. The XingYi system does’t have Chi Gong. The solo form training is the Chi Gong. You build your body from outside in.[/QUOTE]
Very Interesting??
So elaborate on building from the outside in?
Also is there a disadvantage to someone who does both…Build from the outside and in and inside out?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150242]Very Interesting??
So elaborate on building from the outside in?
Also is there a disadvantage to someone who does both…Build from the outside and in and inside out?[/QUOTE]
I don’t believe you can build from inside out.
If your external body is not coordinated, your internal has nothing to coordinate with. If your hands can’t coordinate with your feet, you can’t coordinate your Chi with your hands but not with your feet.
It will take some time for a new student to be able to coordinate his hands with his feet. If you divide 1 move into many sub-moves.
- Coordinate back foot with front hand.
- Coordinate front foot with back hand.
- Coordinate front foot with front front.
It may take you 3 month to achieve this. You then pay attention on your knee and elbow coordination. This may take another 3 months. You finally pay attention on hip and shoulder coordination. After at least 9 months, you can then pay attention on your “inside”.
XingYi master Shang Yunxiang said, “When you have reached to certain level, your muscle and born are all strong, your Kung Fu should move from outside in and enter your internal organ. This step is very hard, you will need to use your sound to help it. The sound come from inside out, the power come from outside in. When both meet, your Kung Fu development is then completed”.
Thanks for sharing very interesting indeed!
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150243]I don’t believe you can build from inside out.
If your external body is not coordinated, your internal has nothing to coordinate with. If your hands can’t coordinate with your feet, you can’t coordinate your Chi with your hands but not with your feet.
It will take some time for a new student to be able to coordinate his hands with his feet. If you divide 1 move into many sub-moves.
- Coordinate back foot with front hand.
- Coordinate front foot with back hand.
- Coordinate front foot with front front.
It may take you 3 month to achieve this. You then pay attention on your knee and elbow coordination. This may take another 3 months. You finally pay attention on hip and shoulder coordination. After at least 9 months, you can then pay attention on your “inside”.
XingYi master Shang Yunxiang said, “When you have reached to certain level, your muscle and born are all strong, your Kung Fu should move from outside in and enter your internal organ. This step is very hard, you will need to use your sound to help it. The sound come from inside out, the power come from outside in. When both meet, your Kung Fu development is then completed”.[/QUOTE]
You can only develop Chi by living well, eating well, drinking well, exercising daily, not smoking, and getting plenty of sleep. A strong healthy body makes for strong Chi. I think what you are wanting to know is how to develop your ability to use it in the application of your Wing Chun. You can make use of it in just about anything you do.
For fighting applications, you need to develop your abdominals because they are the power generators, the triceps because they are the thrust engine, the lats and your wrists in order to take the full force of your own chi.
Yes, healthy eating habits and living habits will improve your chi. I don’t think there is much in Wing Chun that will cultivate chi. For me, after a good workout with Wing Chun, I don’t feel energized. I feel drained. Staying down in the stance, working on proper position and structure is quite draining. However, I believe the training does help me conserve chi later on. I study other internal martial arts. Quite often after training in those I have cultivated chi. I am much more energized. I “awaken the dragon”. The only time in Wing Chun that might happen is when I am sparring and working with people on chi sao and I let it come out; possibly working with the dummy a bit. But, even then I would not say that I am cultivating chi. Rather, I try to conserve it as it it begins to bubble up. I do focus my chi during training, it heightens my awareness of my position and the energy I am using. But, again, I would not say I am cultivating it… I am opening channels for it to flow much more cleanly.
If you can gain something from the above paragraph, then… great. If not,… sorry.
This I know, in order for me to cultivate chi, my mind needs to be relaxed and focused. Not that it isn’t in Wing Chun, but it is focused on utilizing chi. Oft times the rotations of the tantien help facilitate in the cultivation of chi. For me, I limit waist rotations in Wing Chun.
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[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1150135]How do you cultivate chi?
Some have said Practicing Wing Chun SLT cultivates chi if done very slowly..
other lineages have chi gung or breath work…aka energy work?
Also how does the chi you cultivate develop your Jing?[/QUOTE]
Which Chi/Qi? There are 8 types of Chi in TCM.
The 8 types of Chi. http://www.wingchunkwoon.com/accu.asp
btw, there is a mistake in the Horary clock that needs to be corrected. I’m having another website done and it will be corrected..
scroll down to see the 8 chi