Crazy Monkey style boxing

That’s what they teach at the MMA school I went to tonight. Does anyone have any experience with this? It’s seriously the most counter-intuitive thing I’ve ever done. I suck at it.

If you’ve never heard of it, it’s a boxing stance where instead of holding your hands like you do in Western boxing, you kind of put your palms on top of your head so your elbows/forearms are covering you face (kind of like covering up in Western boxing, except your hands are higher up your head) and you basically block everything by moving your elbows around a little bit. It’s weird because it’s a very defensive stance, and it’s weird to throw punches with your hands that high.

So does anyone have any experience with it? Does anyone do anything like it in Pride or UFC? It’s supposed to work well without gloves on. I probably explained it wrong because I’ve only had one day of classes, but it was pretty strange. I am absolutely not used to actively letting punches hit me like that.

We’ll see how it goes.

Are you allowed to move your hands away from your head? Otherwise I could see that your mid section would be wide open to attacks.

You can move your hands wherever you want, you’re just supposed to leave them up there.

Imagine someone with their hands on their head, elbows pointing forward.

You kind of hunch over a little bit, and keep your chin down.

I asked about the low strikes, too. You just bring you arm down (so that maybe your palm is by your cheek and your elbow is by your ribs then).

I think he said it’s basically used to get into the clinch. Sounds like there’s NOT an emphasis on actual standup fighting, but I don’t know yet.

I hope there is a little bit… I like stand up fighting. I hate people who are all like “yeah get to the clinch as soon as you can. Stand up fighting is bullshit.” :rolleyes:

But like I said. I don’t understand it so I’m probably explaining it wrong. I think there’s more people here who have experience with crazy monkey so maybe they can explain it a little better.

We don’t hold our guard like that, but when you cover while slipping a punch, you bring your arm up in a combing your hair motion. If someone is throwing a flurry of punches, you can slip back and forth like that and it will sound the way that you described. The above is also used to block a hook. There are several ways to slip or parry, and that’s one of them. using that method, you are loaded and ready to throw a counter punch with the other hand.

I may be wrong but from what I understand it is used to get into the clinch. The idea being not to get into a boxing match with someone better than you.

I doubt that u would fight like that all the time, ur balence would be impaired for a start, and u cant see side attacks.

Blocking hooks with ur hands on ur head!!!
whats that all about???
Thats fine if ur oponent has huge boxing gloves on, but bare fist??? he will just start aiming for ur elbow and break ur arm!

Imagine someone with their hands on their head, elbows pointing forward
Sounds like a good candidate to get kicked in the stomach.

Thats fine if ur oponent has huge boxing gloves on, but bare fist??? he will just start aiming for ur elbow and break ur arm!

Bare fist vs. bent elbow. You think it’s the elbow that’s going to break? I doubt that very seriously.

It will if you use your chi.
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Meat Shake
It will if you use your chi.
:rolleyes:

good point.

Bare fist vs. bent elbow. You think it’s the elbow that’s going to break? I doubt that very seriously.
Don’t even have to hit the elbow as the ulna is also there to take hits. How about open hand vs elbow? I can see where covering with elbows high can lead to your opponent taking your balance. Barefist uppercuts to the triceps and spearhand to the armpit are what I can also think of as weakness of being in that guard too long. But I think the idea is to clinch with the striker so you’re not going to be going 3 rounds in that guard. Seems pretty good.

No argument here. With either your target suggestions or the idea that it’s used primarily to get into clinching range.

But fist –> elbow = broken fist

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I don’t personally know about a fist, but I can testify that I broke my foot by kicking someone who blocked their head with an elbow.

But fist –> elbow = broken fist
What if the guy has really really weak elbows and the other guy is the comic book character IronFist? What then?

WARNING! WARNING! STUPID WHAT IF MADE FOR NO PURPOSE WHATSO EVER!!

Sorry I’m bored.

:stuck_out_tongue:

Well sure, Rogue. If it were the characters from Unbreakable, I have no doubt that Bruce Willis’ character David would break Mr. Glass’ elbow in short order.

:slight_smile:

Seriously, I don’t mean to bust on the poster that wrote this originally. I really don’t. I’m just reinforcing the idea that the elbows up thing (at least as long as it takes to get to clinch range) is a clever idea.

Masterkiller, I very nearly did the same thing. Didn’t walk right for about a week and a half. Meh. Respect the elbows.

A very good idea. If you’re trying to clinch the only things you have to worry about are a knee which can be countered by your own knee, and some punches and elbows which the Crazy Monkey seems to cover.

Ironfist, you can also post to Matt Thorton over on Defend net. I’ve found him to be friendly and willing to answer most questions.

coincidentally, I found a thread about crazy monkey on defend.net yesterday. you can do a google search.

There was a guy in the class with a taped up knuckle and I think he said he hurt it by punching someone in the elbow.

This guard mentioned by Ironfist sounds a lot like one I’ve seen in photographs of Jailhouse Rock/52 Hands.

There is use of the combing hair motion described by 7* in Systema.

Originally posted by Stranger
This guard mentioned by Ironfist sounds a lot like one I’ve seen in photographs of Jailhouse Rock/52 Hands.

Where have you seen pics of Jailhouse Rock/52 Hands? I thought it was the ultimate secret style?