We’re just a little bored and irritated, you’re the one who’s shouting.
wing chun and fujian white crane uses the bagua symbol as a map of how and where to move in relation to the opponent movement.
Does choy lay fut also use the bagua symbol as a guide for positioning? What strategy interms of angular footwork do choy lay fut people use in attack and defence?
I give up.
Seriously please debate your histories elsewhere. PLEASE.
Kungfu fighter- CLF footwork is similar to an astrix symbol * (should also be a line through the middle)
Seriously guys I don’t give a fuk about these stupid history/lineage debates and frankly they pi$$ me off :mad:
CLF utilizes different footwork patterns in forms and fighting. Generally what you will see in forms is linear footwork (forward and back), sup gee footwork or “+” cross pattern and baat gwa footwork, which utilizes the 8 directions.
In terms a fighting you would incorporate the baat gwa footwork since in and of itself it would include the other two.
CLF footwork and handwork have the same overall principals and that is attacks from multiple angles.
What’s an astrix symbol, is it this symbol in between the quotes “*”
Strategically what are you trying to accomplish? Can you give me some more details about this.
How is the baat gwa footwork used in choy lat fat in terms of the strategy involved, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to position yourself on a forty-five degree angle in relation to the opponent or do you use other angles as well such as going behind the opponent?
yes that’s it. basically if you were to draw that on the floor it shows the various directions you can move in.
Forward
Back
to the sides
diangonal forward
diangonal backward
each one of these directions is used in relation to the position of the opponent in order to give you the strongest postion to attack.
For instance if an opponent punches at you like a left jab then you might move diangonally forward to the left to get a good postion on his side so you can counter attack.
If they lunge forward in may be nessacary to move diangonal backward to acheive the same position.
It’s hard explaining this on the forum I hope you understand what I’m sayin.
I feel if you use this in combination with CLF’s 10 elements you can respond to almost any situation
Very interesting. I will examine my fighting strategy and forms when I have time.
Speaking of Ba Gua, would then cross-training into Ba Gua be good idea? Since CLF uses the 8 Taigrams foortork, would Ba Gua Zhang yield SUPERIOR results than the other internal systems: Tai Ji and Xing Yi?
Thanks.
CLFs baat gwa footwork and the baat gwa style are very different. Baat gwa the system is very good but since your green better to learn more CLF first.
Agree with CLFNole, better to learn one system well before moving onto another.
Ba Gua Zhang and Baat Gwa strategy in CLF really don’t have a lot to do with each other, other than the name + the philosophical theory of the eight trigrams.
However, I think Ba Gua Zhang and CLF could be a good combo. CLF mixed with another closer range, synchronous (ie internal) style is a good mix. Thats why I do CLF and Chen Taiji.
Its really just like the MMA guys mixing Judo and Muy Thai ie short range, long range.
What’s the difference in application between Ba Gua Zhang and Baat Gwa strategy in CLF. A detailed explanation would be nice!
What’s the difference in application between Ba Gua Zhang and Baat Gwa strategy in CLF. A detailed explanation would be nice!
Hi,
What’s the difference in application between Ba Gua Zhang and CLF Baat Gwa strategy. Can someone give a detailed explanation of some examples and specific applications of how the Baat Gwa strategy is used in Choy Lay Fut?