NO one bilking cash off the image and myth of Bruce Lee wants to discuss the truth of things
They almost crucified this guy for discussing things the estate didn’t want you do know
http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/79/22/75842279/documents/UNSETTLEDMATTERS.pdf
[QUOTE=bawang;1280604]i dont care much for bruce lee as a martial artist but i can sympathize with him as a human being. trying to make it in the 60s hollywood is tough for a colored feller.
its sad that in trying to break stereotypes bruce lee created a new one.[/QUOTE] 
" What would Jee,… uh, I mean, Bruce Lee do? "
“Gary Elms”
Why does this sound like a Pokemon trainer name?
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more like “I was smoking this serious bowl dude, and I decided to quote Krishnamurti, and people were like wow Bruce, you’re so deep”
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1280623]here’s a brush, take the sand out of your panties…[/QUOTE]
Wow, an immature response! What a big, ****ing surprise! Honestly, when you develop mental faculties greater than a 12 year old, maybe I’d be interested in having an actual intelligent conversation. Don’t worry, I won’t hold my breath!
Quite frankly, I don’t necessarily disagree with you on something. Saying that Bruce is and will always be the greatest is a little childish, and something I have not said myself. I have seen things that Bruce Lee has pulled off (1-inch punch, finger push ups, etc.) done by other people, who were much better at that stuff. It once again comes down to the one thing that impresses me about Bruce, and that is how he looked at fighting. I’m going back to my work.
Happy training!
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It once again comes down to the one thing that impresses me about Bruce, and that is how he looked at fighting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3q381ae0jI
That is the only footage of Bruce Lee doing anything like “fighting”
You find that impressive?
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1280749]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3q381ae0jI
That is the only footage of Bruce Lee doing anything like “fighting”
You find that impressive?[/QUOTE]
For the time-period, yes. But I’m no arguing about he looked in 1967, I’m arguing for his principles and philosophy as they are applied to fighting.
I have yet to see anyone do what he did in his films. Guys come close but there is always something lacking.
Point is, he was better than us then . If he was alive today knowing what we know now. He would be better than us still . He had what the rest of us did not.
Enough guys have come forward and stated how good he was. If Joe Lewis thought the guy was **** do you really think he would have spent all that time learning from him?
That old sparring footage. If anyone think it looks bad, compare it to his contemporaries.
I recall seeing a Canadian movie. I forget the title and when it was made. It was about a boxer but not much ring stuff. Street stuff. They guy that played that part, he moved as good as Bruce Lee on film. But it was punches only. They captured the speed and power and snap like Lee. The finesse. It was really good choreography but it was the actor that made it great. Sorry I just can’t recall anything other than that. Sorry.
So in all the knock off Lee’s and other guys that became film stars, though many were great on film, none approached what he had in my opinion but some actor in a low budget Canadian film.
That said, IP MAN , is my favorite MA film at present.
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That old sparring footage. If anyone think it looks bad, compare it to his contemporaries.[/QUOTE]
1964 Kyokushinkai vs Muay Thai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zpMAVcvH5Q
1964 same event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQrF39iTKk
Just Muay Thai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Dtm23xEyg
Apidet would have killed Bruce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA8UCfYNRho
Nice, thank you for those links. Never seen that before.
Was Bruce at Oyamas First event in the US? I cant recall. I know he made a couple of trips to NY. The one Gary Alexander Won. Also, is that not the one Counte Dante got disqualified from? Alexander said he knocked him out quick, yet he was disqualified? I wish someone had footage of that event and that fight.
By the way, I withdraw my previous comment except, he was still better than all of us, lol!
Has anyone heard of Muhammad Ali? Somebody told me he was a great fighter during Bruce’s era and there is extensive fight footage of him, but it must be very rare, very secret. I can’t even find what movies he was in. Did he have a black belt?
Don’t know but I think he trained with Dillman for a small time.
[QUOTE=pazman;1280787]Has anyone heard of Muhammad Ali? Somebody told me he was a great fighter during Bruce’s era and there is extensive fight footage of him, but it must be very rare, very secret. I can’t even find what movies he was in. Did he have a black belt?[/QUOTE]
sometimes he went by the name of Cassius Clay.
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Apidet would have killed Bruce
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I think Bruce would’ve trained appropriately for the event, so we really don’t and can’t know the outcome. What we do know is that BL has a legacy that will live on forever. At this point, does it matter? His philosophy, whether contrived or created endures in MMA and modern self defense. His name belongs right up there with Kano and Gracie because of their profound influence in the development of modern martial arts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apidej_Sit-Hirun
Apidej Sit-Hirun (September 1941 – April 4, 2013), born Narong Yaenprateep, was a famous muay Thai fighter.[1] Born in Samut Songkhram, Thailand, Sit-Hirun was best known for his powerful kicks. In one fight, he broke both of Sompong Charoenmuang’s arms, and forced the fighter to retire. He is considered the hardest kicker in muay Thai history. Apidej simultaneously held no less than seven muay Thai and boxing titles for a period during the 1960s.[2] Thereafter, he was acclaimed as a national hero and Muay Thai Fighter of the Century by HRH King Bhumibol Adulyadej.[3] After his retirement, Apidej taught as an instructor at the Fairtex school outside Bangkok, Thailand alongside modern champions such as Yodsaenklai Fairtex and Kaew Fairtex. He died of lung cancer at the age of 72 on April 4, 2013, at Phramongkutklao Hospital, Bangkok
The Wiki source fails to mention the two guys who DIED because of his kicks… yes, trained, very well conditioned professional fighters that DIED