Good clip, he inspired many…Bil Gee is an open ended question , with unlimited answers.
Good Clip,Funny thing is most of the so called experts around here think Bruce sucked, lol…Perception is everything, some have it some don’t:)
He was an actor, not a fighter. But yes, he did inspire many people.
[QUOTE=Bacon;1196521]He was an actor, not a fighter. But yes, he did inspire many people.[/QUOTE]
I agree he wasn’t a professional/amateur fighter, he didn’t compete in events, but he could fight. I’ve read around here were ppl said he couldn’t.
Also, your label “actor” yes he was that, as well as many other things, you said it he inspired ppl as well, so he wasn’t just an actor. All of us are more than just the sum of our parts, Bruce played many roles/parts in his life, like we all do, to put him in a box and say he was just this or that (especially when you never met him, lol..) is a error in judgement IMO.
J
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYrSuOxn2o&feature=g-vrec another one..
In the clip you see him doing Chi Sau…You will never ever see him actually sparring.
In a demo any one can win if you go by certain rules…But in actual match..Ones gung fu could be proven by how well they fight!
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1196527]In the clip you see him doing Chi Sau…You will never ever see him actually sparring.
In a demo any one can win if you go by certain rules…But in actual match..Ones gung fu could be proven by how well they fight![/QUOTE]
In the one I posted there is no footage of him sparring, there is in other clips out there.
All I can say as someone that never met him, like everyone else around here, when I see him move, read about or watch other’s talk about his ability, I make my own judgement about it, HE COULD FIGHT AND KICK ALL THE GUYS AROUND HERE ASSES..lol…
Since he’s dead you and I will never really know how good he was, I’m not saying he was the world’s best, but he could definetly fight, lol, to deny that is a fools choice:)
J
Bruce fought, WSL talks about him having early fights in HK challenges.
I do JKD, anyone who wants to see what it’s about can come to LA. I always need a good training partner.
[QUOTE=Fa Xing;1196570]I do JKD, anyone who wants to see what it’s about can come to LA. I always need a good training partner.[/QUOTE]
I’m in LA. Where do you train?
[QUOTE=k gledhill;1196546]Bruce fought, WSL talks about him having early fights in HK challenges.[/QUOTE]
Exactly Kev. Sifu Cheung also talks about the real street fights Bruce had. Plus, he fought against a boxer once.
For being “just an actor” he sure got and still gets a lot of respect from seasoned fighters.
Bas Rutten, Mike Tyson, The Gracies, Anderson Silva, Pac Man, the list goes on and on and on.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1196643]For being “just an actor” he sure got and still gets a lot of respect from seasoned fighters.
Bas Rutten, Mike Tyson, The Gracies, Anderson Silva, Pac Man, the list goes on and on and on.[/QUOTE]
who would listen to all those scrubs?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1196527]In the clip you see him doing Chi Sau…You will never ever see him actually sparring.
In a demo any one can win if you go by certain rules…But in actual match..Ones gung fu could be proven by how well they fight![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1196643]For being “just an actor” he sure got and still gets a lot of respect from seasoned fighters.
Bas Rutten, Mike Tyson, The Gracies, Anderson Silva, Pac Man, the list goes on and on and on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lucas;1196644]who would listen to all those scrubs?[/QUOTE]
Certainly not Mr. know-it-all Master Yoshi … :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=wtxs;1196660]Certainly not Mr. know-it-all Master Yoshi … :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
i just think he is a bit over rated..had he still been living people wouldnt refer to him as they do Elvis, or Tupac Shakur…People would have you believe this and that…Was Bruce Lee a fighter…I dont know…Alls i can say is the only evidence to him being a real fighter is all third hand information…at the end of the day you dont see him doing anything credible outside of some chi sau and inch punch demos.
But i will say he was in excellent condition!
An i love his kung fu in the movies!!!
But hey what about Jet Li is he a fighter?
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1196665]i just think he is a bit over rated..had he still been living people wouldnt refer to him as they do Elvis, or Tupac Shakur…People would have you believe this and that…Was Bruce Lee a fighter…I dont know…Alls i can say is the only evidence to him being a real fighter is all third hand information…at the end of the day you dont see him doing anything credible outside of some chi sau and inch punch demos.
But i will say he was in excellent condition!
An i love his kung fu in the movies!!!
But hey what about Jet Li is he a fighter?[/QUOTE]
Listen mate do your Research before you start running your gums He did Sparring
He saw himself as a Martial artist first!
I thought it was common knowledge that he fought wjm and at least held his own. I dont know someone not capable of fighting can do that?
was he a professional fighter? no lol. neither am I. I can still fight. but i am not a ‘fighter’
i dont think bruce lee was a ‘fighter’. but i think he could fight.
Third hand information? Can you not see how the man moved? At the very least you cannot deny the fact that he could 1) Move fast, hit fast, react fast 2) Hit hard 3) Kick fast and hard 4) Had knowledge about a variety of fighting methods 5) Ability to teach others some effective skills. What else do you need to be a good fighter??
Now since the man is dead, of course some of the information is from other sources, but where else would you get it. You see a video of him sparring, you have two ways to know if he is sparring well, by making your own observations and by asking the guy he was sparring, lol…
Man, some really need to look within themselves and ask if they have a brain or not.
I do agree, he has been made to be like a God, like some unbeatable fighter, I don’t buy that stuff, but yeah he could kick my ass and most all those around here back in his prime.
Was he a fighter? I do believe he was, he just didn’t compete, not much to compete in back in his day, and he was more than just a fighter, or actor, and he realized that. Not sure if he could take a punch though, you need that too to be a fighter…
J
Just as well Bruce preceded the internet or like too many of us the only MA skills he had would have required a keyboard.
The guy trained far harder and was more committed to MA than all but a very few at the time or since. Probably more than half of you are doing WC because BL inspired you or your seniors.
Was Bruce Lee a fighter…I dont know
Are you an idiot … Yes! Everyone knows!
[QUOTE=Lucas;1196644]who would listen to all those scrubs?[/QUOTE]
I’m guessing they expect him for the two and only reasons I respect him. He brought martial arts to the mainstream in the west through being a good actor, and he started innovating and blending pieces of styles.
I respect him as an innovator but his skills as a fighter aren’t all that people make them out to be. Tying to say that Bruce was any more than an okay fighter is like trying to claim that the Gracies were spectacular strikers.
[QUOTE=sihing;1196525]I agree he wasn’t a professional/amateur fighter, he didn’t compete in events, but he could fight. I’ve read around here were ppl said he couldn’t.
Also, your label “actor” yes he was that, as well as many other things, you said it he inspired ppl as well, so he wasn’t just an actor. All of us are more than just the sum of our parts, Bruce played many roles/parts in his life, like we all do, to put him in a box and say he was just this or that (especially when you never met him, lol..) is a error in judgement IMO.[/QUOTE]
Good points.
A lot of people on forums like tossing little barbs at BL; usually what they really mean is, “I’m a better and more knowledgeable MAist than BL was.” When in fact nobody can ever know. So BL wasn’t a fighter because he didn’t have the foresight to make videos of himself fighting to one day post in the far-flung future on u-tube? Seriously?
Obviously, BL wasn’t the greatest fighter who ever lived. Who could ever claim that? It’s a very big world, and I doubt he himself ever claimed such. But I’m certain he could have handled himself very well against most people.
There are tons of people out there who could tear the living crap out of most guys, and who are unknown and have never posted anything online. Many of whom have very little to no formal MA training. They are not professional fighters, but they can hurt you very badly, very quickly. To underestimate others you don’t know because they’re ‘an actor’, or whatever else they happen to be/have been, is a potentially dangerous form of delusion.