BJJ's Achilles Heel

JJJ,

Once again, thanks.

BJJ

hey guys i am new to this forum and I basically signed up after reading this thread… Studd I think you are probobly going up against very new students of brazilian jiujitsu or possibly students that may not have access to a good instructor. Around the time when Royce was winning the ufcs there was a lot of guys with big heads doing jiujitsu and acting like they could beat anyone up hey i was one of those guys :slight_smile: i think over the last few years the bjj guys have been humbled a lot. I think if you go to any good school you will find some of the nicest martial artists around - i have been to many respectable JIujitsu schools and I have never seen any bad attitides at all - I dont think anyone that is any good in BJJ would claim that it has the best takedowns - judo and wrestling dominate those for sure but at the same time there is no way a horse stance is going to defend a good takedown. I also agree with another post that stated that judo could be as dangerous as BJJ if they brought the focus to submissions after the throw - i agree but judo lacks a good guard and years of training for pins instead of submissions puts them way behind on the ground game. Anyways my advice to studd is to go and find a good Jiujitsu fighter and put your skills up against him - if you are a black belt in another martial arts it would only be fair for you to grapple a black belt in BJJ and then come back and post your thoughts on this board.

Justin Morris
Pedro Sauer Brazilian Jiujistu
www.thirdheaven.com

If the Gracies caould do what they did with Judo’s ground game, why hasn’t anyone done the same thing with the throws?

Judo already has done this. For jacket throws, while competition Sambo comes close, nothing surpases judo.

“I also agree with another post that stated that judo could be as dangerous as BJJ if they brought the focus to submissions after the throw”

i think slamming someone on the ground(not mats) is just as dangerous, if not more so, than submitting them.


Its all fun and games til someone loses an
eye. Then its just fun.

Justin,

Out of curiosity, did you train under Pedro Sauer in Orem/Salt Lake City, Utah? I trained in Wing Chun for a long time in those same stomping grounds.

I had the opportunity to meet Pedro at UFC2 in Denver. He’s a really nice guy and seems very capable.

Hey Knife Fighter

I just feel that if more BJJ guys focused on the Judo and BJJ together, they would be BAD AS HELL. I wouldn’t be too quick to mess with them, that’s for sure.

I respect the hell out of both arts, but together?
Oh Damn!!

Although there are many styles, they all depend on the strong beating the weak and the slow falling to the quick. These are not related to the power that must be learned – Taiji Classics

Hey Water Dragon,

Most of the top guys do have black belts in judo. Maybe that’s why they’re at the top? I thought you folks might like this web site: http://www.geocities.com/relvisab/mehdi.htm

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Hey Neal…I understand HAWK has said something about GJJ being street realistic with their takedowns…can u elaborate on the techs??? Since I’m a small guy( 5ft 7inches and 140lbs ) I’m trying to use as much tech as possible…I currently use wrestling takedowns…hip toss…double leg…single leg…ankle pick…double leg then trip…etc…any comparison to the GRACIE style would help! THANKS!

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