LIO…well dood…if u’re gonna have a stragedy in streetfighting…please present one??? I have no idea what u’re stragedy is…seems like u’re fighting the TERMINATORs! LOL…my goal in presenting an outline is to make sure U survive…seems like u’re interested in FINISHING someone. Not going to happen in most multiple scenarios. But please give me an outline from A to B.
Originally posted by Liokault
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Belive me it is a bad one!!
number one/ 90 percent of throws are not going to finish your oponent off.
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I don’t believe you.
Pick someone up, put him on his head on the street, he’s suddenly got better things to do (like be rushed to the hospital)
You’re thinking of olypmic-judo type throws. Putting someone on their head is not only likely to injure, but it scares the **** out of people.
Re: Re: 100%?
Originally posted by Knifefighter
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Not so, with the kata junk. These are practiced solely against compliant partners, so you never know what will work and what will not. The real “self-defense” techniques of BJJ are the throws, takedowns, and groundwork that is trained and sparred.
BTW, almost all of Helio’s and Carlos’ system and most of their fighting careers were based on competition. The laboratory for BJJ has mainly been on the mats and in the ring. [/B]
Or the streets of Brazil. Whatever, bro. I guess you are a real GJJ practitioner, unlike everyone I know that trains at Gracie Torrance. Go there and tell Ryron that his Grandfather’s self-defense techs (which btw contains many fundamental groundfighting techs) are crap.
You are a knifefighter, meaning Filipino Escrima/Arnis or the like? Well I lived and trained in the PI and nobody there really thought that Filipino stick or knifefighting was all that. Its a supplementary art at best. I am part filipino and I can tell you that Pinoys are proud of their heritage, but many of them know the reality of the effectiveness of these systems in real streetfights because real fighting is much more prevalent there than here. The real fighters I know did Jeet kune Do, Boxing, Silat, Kuntaw, Shorin Ryu or Thai Boxing. Additionally Kali/Escrima/Arnis make use of forms, or kata, as is evidenced by the prearranged routines that abound in these systems.
Anyway, what the heck do you know about the benefits or detriments of kata training? What system did you train in that taught kata, along with realistic oyo-bunkai or kihon-bunkai? Just wondering, fighting expert guy.