“Point fighting is a joke, as is most tournament oriented “fighting” (I use this term loosely). Some styles are good for self preservation, and others provide you with false pride and confidence. I’m sure Benny can take care of himself, but how much better would he be if he trained in a real fighting style?”
He wasnt a point fighter.
“He was an undefeated sport stylist. Why didn’t he participate in this sport challenge? I think Royce offered to put up $100,000 dollars.”
Another sport. How well would Royce do in Bennys sport? Lets throw the gloves on him and see how well he does as a kickboxer. But we can say the same for Benney, let him fight top boxers by boxing rules.
the gracies are not undefeated, they have been beaten before UFC and since, in other competitions with other rules.
Even though these arts are sports, they are still viable for the street, prob more so than the majority of styles taught because they actually use contact in a fighting situation. When i was a kid in the 70’s before MA really exploded everyone said if you want to learn self defense learn boxing. Its a sport but its training will prepare you for a real encounter.
“Some styles are good for self preservation, and others provide you with false pride and confidence.”
this is very true, practicing with willing partners and never fighting with a resisting fighter will not prepare you enough for an encounter. You cannot pratice everytime with full power strikes (Run out of training partners) but you must know what its like to get hit and thrown and hit or throw someone resisting you.
What the f u c k is a Fred Ettish? Sounds like a form of neurosis! Sparring and sport are a necessary evil, but they have no real bearing on how you’ll perform on the street, PERIOD
What the f u c k is a Fred Ettish? Sounds like a form of neurosis! Sparring and sport are necessary evils, but they have no real bearing on how you’ll perform on the street, PERIOD
Sorry but I can’t take your pokes at Shorin lightly. What school of Shorin did this Ettish b i t c h train in? NHB is a friggin’ joke like the majority of you suckers on here. America is always deluding itself with these claims of superiority in anything it tries to do. Here’s an example: if Judo and other sport cats are so fukkkkin’ hot then why is it that Judo boy on the 3rd plane couldn’t handle some pipsqueak part time tuff guys and then put the plane on autopilot? OT: Why are no talent suckers like Marilyn Manson and the New Kids on the Back Street Sync hyped up here and sell records. What the fukkk are people looking at and perceiving?
If it ain’t been programmed you can’t understand it. Sheep and never the Shepherd.. How did some real mofos hijack the d a m n planes anyway? Did they shoot-in and take the crew down with wrestling throws? There was a max of 5 fools on each flight. After the 1st flight why didn’t the ever perceptive now deceased receive any info as to what was going on. They were talking to peeps on they cellys and s h i t. There were at least 150 people on all those flights and they let these malnourished poo-butts do what they did? Does the world know what being proactive means?
All the jumpimg around in your speedos can’t and won’t train you for a situation like that. You know, real life. Not drama and WWF. No rules at all, hit in the back of the head with the corner of an ashtray while you got your back to the ruffians assaulting you. That’s what I’ve trained for my whole life and there has been numerous occasions when I got a chance to test it. Here I am still alive after being a Pararescuemen in Desert Storm, growing up the hard way in the Philippines, and kicking 5 racist s h i t talkers’ asses at a Superbowl party and enjoying the memory of it (all were boxers/wrestlers).
Fukkkk you assssholes and your idol Fred Ettish. He is not nor ever will be a true Shorin yudansha. If I find him I’ll automatically demote him to a yellow belt my-d a m n-self! Most of the people who train in the US suckkkk, straight up, no matter what style(s) they claim. No athleticism, stamina, imperturbability, experience, and even the boxers punch like females. Y’alls world is gonna be turned upside down soon. Hope you’re on the right side of reality. Belee’ tha’ hype-- Life is a sport! That’s why I’ll always be harder than y’all 'cause I’m smarter than y’all!
Beyotches!
Not-So Happy HOLYdays, and Generation X-mas…
PS: F U C K this forum. You cats got all the answers. All Kung Poop sucks (except Tai Chi), and the only Shaolin is Shorin. That’s it 4 me. Say what you want, you know everything and are more wordly than an ex- AF SpecOps guy who is an MD. Snot-nosed pee wees!!! This is really the Omega Point… Be glad you were graced with true greatness for a year. You’ll be hearing from me soon, just not on this BS site. F U C K all of YA’LL!!!
Whats the fck was that guys problem. Every style gets bashed once in a while, Shorin probably the least out of all of them. People actually respect it. You dont have to sht your panties just because someone was joking with you. Even if they disagreed with you, thats no reason to flip out. This is a forum if you forgot, and for Kung fu. You had to consciously fill out a member registration form. I agreed with you on some points but how many Karateka’s have you had streetfights with to dismiss their styles like that.
i just love it how everyone associates the waterdown of martial arts to everything americans do. its the biggest steriotype ive ever seen. not all of us look for the easy way out, you dont become a world power by being lazy. this guy needs to get a grip.
Hold on folks, despite the cute name, PJ’s and being in the Air Force, Para/Rescue Jumpers are a very elite SO group. Many times they’re the ones that go in when an op has gone very bad, or a flyer needs to be rescuded behind enemy lines. Yes they can fight, and quite well. Their training is rated as about the toughest there is. They may not go in and run a war like the Green Hats are doing in Afghanistan, but they are very good at what they do, which is to rescue people even if it means getting into a gun fight to do it.
“Tougher than Ranger. At least on par for any spec ops group, with very heavy EMT training”
Im sure about the EMT training, but both the the AF and Marines send people to the Army ranger schools for training. You would be suprised how many service members from other services go to Army schools.
We train with the Rangers during a portion of our tech school. All PJs and Combat Contollers are weapons, dive and jump masters, and our training is like the rest of Spec-Ops, but like the Army’s SFs we specialize in either life saving and search/rescue (PJs) or setting up an effective landing zone or strip to facilitate forward air control. The reason you never hear of AFs SpecOps is 'cause the USAF is about skill AND intelligence, not hocus-pocus and false bravado.
As for the stereotype of AF cats being wusses, that’s just ridiculous! Many great MAs legends were airmen (Chuck Norris for example). The fiercest and most successful warriors have always been extremely intelligent. In the words of Mos Def, “I’m harder than y’all cuz I’m smarter than y’all”!
DK you must be an ex-Army grunt, Jarhead or SQUIziD! That’s alright though. You have to be semi-smart to get in the Air Farce! That ASVAB was real tuff, hahahahaha!
“The reason you never hear of AFs SpecOps is 'cause the USAF is about skill AND intelligence, not hocus-pocus and false bravado.”
False bravado…who is searching caves looking for OBL? Who is keeping peace in Kosovo? Somalia?
The Army teaches leaders, the airforce promotes based on how you test. Leadership skills mean nothing in the af.
The Airforce fly’s out of S. Cal to a war then fly’s home. Army, Marines are there. true warriors putting their lives on the line for the protection of the nation.
The airforce has to get home in time for cnn to report their latest mission.
On a positive note, air force does have better food, living conditions and hotter chicks.
