I watched my first Shotokan Karate matches last night on TV ever. I was absolutely appalled at the lack of skill displayed by these guys as reguards throwing and taking punches.
I mean, you have got to be kidding right??? Has anyone seen these guys? They were constantly off balance all the time while trying to deliver strikes and defend themselves. I could not believe what I was seeing, as these guys KNOW they are going to go at it in the RING.
It was just pathetic really. The kicks were ok, but they even could not defend against kicks well either. This was the world championship, whatever that means? They acted like if they took one shot, they would collapse and die on the spot!
When they finally put boxing gloves on, it was acutally better, but still pretty sad. These guys were totally scared to COMMIT their weight and stance enought to deliver anyting with power. Plus, the whole off balance thing was too much.
Morons, if I was a troll WTF am I doing on a Kung Fu board saying something bad about Karate?!? Let me clarify:
The guys I saw sucked at balance and delivery. They were not performing Karate very well. I have seen this in boxing, kickboxing and the UFC too.
I just thought the gentlement doing the fighting were ill prepared or scared or something.
A troll? Ok, you got me. BJJ RULES DUDE. That why I take Kung Fu.
JWT, sorry man, I have no idea why you wouldn’t touch that one with a ten foot pole. You’ve got the wrong idea. Educate me in my email. It is in my profile
Frankly, I’ve got better things to do than research your past posts. Thanks for the offer anyway, but I’ll decline. :rolleyes:
And whether you like it or not you came across as a troll in the first post of this thread. It’s to your credit you realized that and have now backed off that position and clarified what it was you were actually talking about.
CD Lee
If it was on ESPN last night it was not Shotokan but the SHIDOKAN a MMA group who’s fights consist of 3 rounds of “bare knuckle” 3 rounds of Kickboxing, and the remaining rounds in grappling/submission.
Have never seen Shotokan, but I have to agree with you about these Shidokan dudes, they suck arse, boring boring boring, full of crappy martial arts!!!
Well, that explains it. He got the two names mixed up. An excusable error; I’ll get off my high horse now–although it’s a LOOOONNGG way down.
I missed the match on ESPN because I was watching the World Series. Still, I would have liked to seen it, and I figure that these two guys, from what I’ve heard, are not very good representatives of their respective art.
I saw the Shidokan special on TV. I thought it was very entertaining, in that it was something I had never seen before, and there were a lot of knockouts. But, I agree that the lack of skill was startling. Looked alot like the kickboxing everyone’s putting down on the “why do some kung fu guys fight like kickboxers” thread. A lot of guys that seemed afraid to engage. Of course, I don’t know if I would do any better. Even though the quality of the fighters needs to improve, it’s a big step up from the converted boxers throwing 3 kicks a round in the kickboxing matches I used to see on TV 10 years ago. Did you hang around to see the end? The highlight reel of knockouts was pretty good at the end. -FJ
Thanks Tao, one lousy letter, and the wrath of Heaven falls on me Ok, I sounded like a troll, but I was just excited.
Yes, that is the show I saw. And I stand by what I said about the delivery. I am not slagging their style, but their application delivery. I watched 3 matches, and they were all terribly sloppy. Once they moved into punching range, they were not set to throw, but leaning all over the place, punch moving to the right, body leaning to the left. Just bad technique basics. Oh, and they were falling down constantly when the other guy had not even landed anything! Ridiculous.
I was just p1ssed that these guys showed up to fight like that.
Yes, I watched those highlights, and they were entertaining, but did you really look at them closely? Those KO’s were what you get when you get an unprepared overweight chump like me in the ring with guys who are conditioned to fight. Those kind of KO’s should be the exception.
Plus, most of those guys totally folded when they took one solid shot ANYWHERE. That one guy was knocked out with the second thight kick he recieved? I know it hurts, but two kicks to the leg and he is munching canvass for dinner. Those guys were just not prepared to take shots period
J Hot Shot
I think the comments on the style are fair.
Those guys suck. No fundamentals, no foundation, no balance..just sad.
Just another ESPN time filler showcasing the same kind of paul mitchel forms crap.
You guys are talkin about the Sheidokan in Chicago? That is a good tournament, I saw it in person about 2 years ago. Hmmm ESPN2 was taping the one I was at maybe that was the one…but the championships were good I have no idea what you guys are talking about. If that is the riht one look for me in the front row getting kicked out of my seat, me and my friend stole some ringside booths for about half the fights but got caught Anyway if you are talkin about the sheidokan in Chicago you are nuts!
No no…I have NEVER seen Tai Boxers look off balance like these guys were. Not a whole slew of them anyways.
Are you farmiliar with Boxing term “Paluka”? It is a very real proffesion. Professional losers, that lose almost every single fight. It is not rigged, but these guys have NO TALENT, and just cannot win. The have records in boxing like 12-56. Rarely are their true recoreds announced, and they litter the top boxers’ records. They fight under multiple names and have tons of fights. That is what these guys looked like.
If you saw that show last night, and think that was good skill being displayed, you have never watched or undertood what is happening in a contest where punches or kicks are thrown with intent to injure or make contact.
in all fairness these guys look ok when practising , deliver lots of power , but their dsparring does suck , because its point orientated , it doesnt matter if you hit with a power ful straight reverse punch , or if you hit the guy with the pinkie from your left toe when super extended, you still get the point , so its much easier to do doggie paddle attacks than to stand there and fight. also easier to jump about avoiding punches rather than to hold a stance and use footwork, which will aid you to block a powerful punch.
oh well
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