Tun Tou Chueng -> Bo Bo Toi and Sam Jin
Bo Bo Toi -> Sam Bo Toi
Sam Bo Toi -> Sup Lok Dong & Gau Bo Toi
Gau Bo Toi also named Lok Geng Gau Bo Toi.
Sam Bo Bo Toi jiou hai Gau Bo Toi.
Old school :
Meng Fu Tiu Cheung (Sect 1) Ha San (Sect 2) Chut Lum (Sect 3).
LYG has favorite part, CLC has favorite, then there is the other which some kept and some did not know.
The Dragon Connection
OK, now I’m gonna be the odd man out. I’m not sold yet that Gau Bo Twi came from Dragon. I’m not sold that Dragon Style is about the “dragon” animal from Sui Lum Animal theory. We have issues of Taoist versus Buddhist philosophy here. I don’t know, but I have yet to have a plausable explanation based upon what I do know.
CLC and Lam Yeu Gwai were cousins, trying their luck across Guangzhou (5 rivers area or somesuch?). They learned their Kung Fu together, and shared much of what they learned. CLC was tall and thin. LYG was short and thick. I think this is pretty important.
Supposedly, CLC learned Gau Bo Twi at the temple, naturally he would have shared this with his training brother and cousing LYG? Or, perhaps, as Shaolin Master indicated, it was a common exercise, and was modified and developed as a container to hold the essence of Pak Mei as learned by CLC at the temple. There is no doubt that it is common to both styles, more or less, but I think each has a different interpretation, a different spirit.
As for push, to me, push it is. Bik Bo. 9 step is 3 by 3.
Guo Bo Tyui
Guo Bo Tyui is so named because of the footwork pattern. Look at the form from an ariel view, you will see the Chinese character nine. This is similar in concept with the Kung ji Fook Fu Kuen which the footwork pattern resembles the Chinese character “Kung” (work). It would seem the Sarm Bo Tyui has also influence the formulation of the form. That would be the opening moves which is found in the jik bo as well. Of course, there’s TTFC which is essential to Bak Mei.
Mantis108
shaolin master
howdy,
nice breakdown, i was interested in your mung fu section as did the mung fu chut lum come last out of the old sessions?
If so, why is this an advance bak mei form and what, why was it made for? serious question here, not trying to catch you or anyone out!! 
Thanks in advance
FT
Did u have a good new years?
SM, The walking encyclopedia
Originally posted by Shaolin Master
[B]Tun Tou Chueng -> Bo Bo Toi and Sam Jin
Bo Bo Toi -> Sam Bo Toi
Sam Bo Toi -> Sup Lok Dong & Gau Bo Toi
Gau Bo Toi also named Lok Geng Gau Bo Toi.
Sam Bo Bo Toi jiou hai Gau Bo Toi.
[/B]
What “styles” are these contained within? Is it old and new Pak Mei and Lung Ying, or is it “hakka”, or?
TTFC
TTFC isnt hakka anyways!
is pak mei hakka?
Outta my league
I clearly do not have the historical references contribute to this conversation, but it is soo interesting. All I was told from a historical perspective is that there is a link between 9 step push and Dragon style. But many of you seem to have a better grab on things.
I am not convinced however of aerial view of character 9 (although great theory). I know the way I do 9 step is similar in terms of ground movement to HK schools. So I feel confident in saying that the 9 character barely resembles footwrok, barring a dose of imagination.
Basically you go North, then East (or SE in Vietnam) then pivot to west and go forward West, then pivot North again and o forward, then the double hands move Southwards, then pivot West.
This does not ressemble 9. Can you please light my lantern? What am I not understanding here?
Originally posted by Shaolin Master
[B]Tun Tou Chueng -> Bo Bo Toi and Sam Jin
Bo Bo Toi -> Sam Bo Toi
Sam Bo Toi -> Sup Lok Dong & Gau Bo Toi
Gau Bo Toi also named Lok Geng Gau Bo Toi.
Sam Bo Bo Toi jiou hai Gau Bo Toi.
Old school :
Meng Fu Tiu Cheung (Sect 1) Ha San (Sect 2) Chut Lum (Sect 3).
LYG has favorite part, CLC has favorite, then there is the other which some kept and some did not know. [/B]
Very interesting. 3 versions of Meng Fu… for differnet reasons.
What does the Chinese text mean, if you mind translating?