Most people can’t even kick above their waist after 1 year, especially if they have no athletic background.
Yeah, and 90% of streetfights go to the ground.
I was one of the minority, same as Vicky.
If they are with Wing Chun, why would they?
Because they CAN. 
props to them for pushing it, but very much of it did look like a chain punch fest. i can’t say much more than two years experience, if that, because i don’t recall a single elbow being used, much less regular chi sau. also, WT teaches chin na starting at around 2½ years or so, and i didn’t see any of that, either.
to give them some benefit of the doubt, the gloves they have on aren’t easy to work with. they’re meant not just to pad, but to restrict the wrist and fingers to keep from injury – this also means the gloves keep them from being used to their greatest extent. so while the hands are protected, they’re not much more than clubs, à la typical boxing.
Background on this clip
hi all
This clip was mentioned on the wtdefence.com forum, they are beginners in WT and the fight club is in sweden or denmark, for more info check out the other forum
Regards
Adrian
AdrianUK:
Correction. This is a different WT club and it’s in Germany. No need to check out the other forum.
We have a WT center with a fightclub too, in Denmark.
Has anyone seen the escrima clip? it’s pretty cool. the sifu looks like a badass. like a hells-angels member, or something!
my guess is 3yrs and they are probably told to fight like that.
That is just about the funniest thing I have ever seen.
Good for them. Takes guts. Anyone who disses should please post a clip of themselves doing better.
Rene Ritchie has chain punched this thread with the correctness. Amusingly couch warriors sit back and pick, yet never spar lol.
If you must criticize, at least be a little constructive or maybe just a little humorous. “Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it’s done, they’ve seen it done every day, but they’re unable to do it themselves. - Brendan Behan”
Regards,
Originally posted by KenWingJitsu
Amusingly couch warriors sit back and pick, yet never spar lol.
On the contrary, that is what sparring too early in training does to Wing Chun.
Seems like some people were looking for textbook techniques. Real fights never look textbook.
PRedmond
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Originally posted by KenWingJitsu
Amusingly couch warriors sit back and pick, yet never spar lol.
On the contrary, that is what sparring too early in training does to Wing Chun.
On the contrary, that’s what not sparring often enough does to anything.
Oh no, Merry, you are very wrong, very very wrong about that.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Merryprankster
On the contrary, that’s what not sparring often enough does to anything. [/QUOTE]
Dude, you don’t even do Wing Chun according to your profile.
While I don’t agree with Alpha Dog’s opinion, how can you contradict it on an art you don’t even do?
I’m having a hard time understanding why people who are not doing WC (and showing either little interest or even disdain for the art) would come to the WC forum and post their opinions on how to do WC better. Why do that?
Because the question is actually more about training methods at this point, vice doing WC correctly.
Alpha Dog seems to fall into the camp of “teach them to do it ‘right’ then let them spar.”
I fall into the camp of “teach them the basics, then let them play and refine as you go.”
Different people have different ideas and even different ideas within that (ie, what constitutes the basics). No biggie. I find that most problems, regardless of style/system, are related to not sparring enough vice sparring too little or too soon.
Secondly, it’s a public forum. Tough.
Originally posted by Merryprankster
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Alpha Dog seems to fall into the camp of “teach them to do it ‘right’ then let them spar.”
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Yup.
Learning good structure isn’t easy, it takes time. It takes time to learn sensitivity too.
What are the appropriate platitudes? Haste makes waste? That’s a good one.
Anyway, that’s just how I feel about the matter, Merry. If your way works for you, go for it.
Hi Merry,
Originally posted by Merryprankster
I fall into the camp of “teach them the basics, then let them play and refine as you go.”
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Basics are relative.
Regards,
Zhuge Liang
MerryP - have you ever come into contact with any good wing chun? or any other good ‘internal’ CMA for that matter?
Foundation Matters
IME&O, sparring and practice with no foundation yields internalization of anything but foundation.
Balance and timeliness in all things.
Regards,
- kj
“Doa lo yut cheung hung.”
You are empty when you are old, because you were empty at the beginning.