arms and leg: probably around $130-160 depending on wood choice, etc, from www.wooddummy.com
Lumber: I dunno, depends on your frame.
Don’t forget to factor in all the time you will spend working on it to build it, probably an hour or so fileing each hole to the correct size, then building the frame. Measure twice, cut once. Cut smaller holes, and file them to the proper size. Otherwise, you may cut the holes too big.
If you can afford it, you might want to consider buying a PVC one with wooden limbs from Great Lion or Asheville Woodcrafters, but remember that stands are extra.
Right off the top of my head I can offer the following: WWW.Cougarmountain.com
They offer a free-standing version.
I&I Sports also offers a free standing stand
you can call them at 310-715-6800
Or you can try the great Lion Company in Atlanta Georgia, sorry don’t know the URL offhand.
There is also a new product I have seen advertised in magazines. This is some type of recycled Dummy made out of recycled materials. Supposed to be pretty good. Sorry don’t know anything about it. But, it does show several versions which are free standing. You can probably find an add in a current MA magazine.
If you have access to any of Randy Williams books he gives some specs for the Wooden Dummy and a free standing stand.
Wish I could offer more but I am pressed for time at the moment. Feel free to email me if I can be of further assistance.
not wall mounted what style do you do. if its wc than i wouldnt buy the randy williams one if its the one that hangs between a door frame. i cant see how you could do proper wc eg the push in the dummy with a free standing dummy if its like a puching bag.
confused
thanks all!!!
The reason I am asking is because I am a lowly “renter” and can do nothing to my walls that a little white paint wont cover up. I have some friends that are woodworkers that saw “Fist of Legend” and want to see if they can build a wooden man. So I jumped on that one.
I do understand the mounted type is better for many reasons.
Thanks again all!!!..
[This message has been edited by qy (edited 07-28-2000).]
i seen one in a mag that was a corner dummy. it was a normal dummy but it didnt need to be bolted to the wall as it was like a corner unit but i asked my teacher and he said that for the step away and kick(hard to explain unless youve seen it) would be hard as you need room to step to the side.
but its worth a look
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I know of two options: freestanding or corner unit. There are a couple of companies that have a weighted-base free-standing dummy, but they are $600+US.
When I was renting, I got the corner unit stand from Great Lion (http://www.woodendummy.net). It fits neatly in any corner and lets you go full force without damaging walls. I highly recommend it. If making your own, you can get the ideas of the corner design from Great Lion’s website.
Some of the Senior Students in my Kwoon have a NPM dummy that was designed by our sifu and one of our students. It is a Wooden dummy, the type being a modified NPM style that was seated in a metal cup(for lack of a better word)about 10 inches deep. At the bottom of this cup are welded four coil springs attatched to a metal plate which is in turn bolted into a large piece of wood that sits on your floor and can be attatched by bolting or nailing directly into the floor. (This can probably be done with minimal carpet damage)
The coil springs are from heavy automobiles and will hold the dummy erect, and at the same time give enough when you strike to get the proper feel. Our wall mounted dummmy is held in place with leaf springs for give.
A couple years ago I wanted a wooden dummy for my training. As anyone who has looked for a dummy knows, the selection is limited, the prices are high, and most of them will take over your entire house. I started looking at portable dummy’s and I found PVC and plastic things that didn’t look like they would last. I am an engineer by trade so I designed and built myself a free standing, portable wooden dummy. It fits in a corner, is made of actual wood, has a beautiful finish, and has been taking abuse for a couple years now. Everyone who saw it said, “You should be selling those”. So a sometime later, after refining the original design and talking to people with more knowledge about WC than me, we are now offering a free standing, wooden dummy (actually made from wood) for a reasonable price. To check it out go to:
We received a great deal of feedback from many, many martial artists at Dragonfest (including one well known WC teacher). While there were a lot of questions and suggestions (“you could’ve done it this way or that way”) everyone seemed to really like the design of the dummy. The main criticism was that the body should be more round, in response to this we are now looking at going to the rounded front dummy. As it says on the website, the dummy’s are custom made to the users height. So in response to IronFist we will shortly be offering the dummy with a round front. As to yuenfan’s opinion, everyone is obviously entitled to their opinion but the hundreds of WIng Chun people who tried the dummy didn’t seem to agree with you. Let me emphasize, we are trying to offer a product that until now hasn’t been available. An affordable, free standing wooden dummy that can be used by someone that lives in an apartment or who has limited room for training equipment. We have already sold quite a few dummies and everyone has been a satisfied customer.
quo quan- enough of the sales pitch. You have made your announcement.Good luck with your dummy.
You are not by any means the first to offer a free standing dummy or a height adjusted one. I am glad that you recognize the need for a round dummy body. There is more…
Excellent craftmanship with your dummy. It is truly a work of art. But my only problem, other than it not being round, is the base that you are using to support the dummy. I know it is difficult to judge by a picture. The base is not recessed enough for side entry, it is just too far out, preventing a person from stepping in.
As a Wing Chun practitioner, the dummy form has numerous entry techniques, requiring us to move into the dummy at an angle on both sides. I have my own portable, free-standing dummy, from Immortal. It is not made of wood like yours, but made of high density, compressed polymer. It feels and weighs as much as dummy made of oak. I keep it in my basement, which gets pretty damp. A wooden dummy would not be good, since it will crack with the changes in humidity. The base is small, and with the body of the dummy placed foward, for easy side entry. Check it out at: www.immortal-usa.com
i’m sorry but i have to agree with yuanfen.
there are only 2 reasons why these people would like it if they say they are from wing chun.
they odviously really don’t know wing chun
they are just being polite
there are reasons for the dummies shape, diametre, hieght, even down to the width of the frame if you want to be fastidious. if these need explaining then refer to piont 1. or wait til’ your up to that part or the training.
i am not saying that there are not some drills that someone may come up with & find your dummy useful for(innovation is always good as long as it complies with wing chun fundermantals) but for the dummy form there is no substitute for a real dummy.(and no i don’t mean me, your girlfriends/boyfriends, or the less interlectual in your classes.):rolleyes:
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