I was wondering what would be a good art to go along with Wing Chun. I was thinking maybe Muay Thai or something. Not really use the punches but the kicks for distance fighting if i need to. I dont think i will feel good as a martial artist without having good long range fighting skills. What do you guys think?
kung-fu stuff
nothing, wingchun has a complete fighting strategy, we dont fight at long range we make them fight at short range.
Why is Muay Thai so popular?
I dont think i will feel good as a martial artist without having good long range fighting skills. What do you guys think?
I think you should buy a sniper rifle, or some Prozac, and work harder on your Wing Chun skills. 
I dont think i will feel good as a martial artist without having good long range fighting skills.
Long range??.. you’re either in range or out of range.
I’ll break the trend here and try to give you a helpful, non-smarta$$ response.
The roundhouse kick is a versatile and extremely useful kick which may WC strains ignore because it violates WC principles - in the minds of some at least. This is a high-percentage kick when delivered to low or mid level targets.
Any decent Muay Thai school will teach you to deliver this effectively with power and timing. MT training will also make you fit and tough.
My Sifu is one of the better WC exponents in Australia and globally. We practice a full arsenal of kicks (side, round, straight, spinning, jumping, high, low), and supplement our WC with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for effective groundfighting skills, and FMA-based knife and baton training for modern weapon scenarios. Completion of rhe grading curriculum (an exercise which will take most students 25 years plus) will also require proficiency in handgun usage.
If your WC Sifu and Si-hings can’t convince you that WC answers all your combat questions, then find something else that fills the gaps. It’s all very well to say that WC practitioners make the other guy fight at trapping range, but that only works if your skill at bridging the gap exceeds his at long range. Your attendance at WC classes is not a guarantee of this.
Stuff.
You are lucky enough to study with Augustine Fong!..Why don’t you give him a chance to teach you something before you start going crasy with everything else!
I am giving him a chance. I’m not being impatient,I have faith in in Wing Chun. I just wanted to develop some more kicking techniques. Its not like i planned on using MT hand techniques.
kung-fu stuff
Wing chun is a complete fighting system>?
if this were true, then how would you explain everyone’s wing Chun being mixed with other things. I can’t say everyone. But most wing chun people’s wing chun is mixed with a power style like hung gar or choy li fut. If it weren’t we’d all be screwed since real power development doesn’t begin till you start hitting the wooden man.
Whats wrong with the WT kicks.
Apart from the low roundhouse which I have introduced into my curriculum, WT’s arsenal of kicks cover all you need. But you have to train them hard if you want to make them work.
Remember its harder to learn to kick properly, than to learn to strike with your hands. A fact sadly neglected by many practicioners.
As for the “long range fighting”. Its right there in the WT tactics, you just need to learn to bridge the gab. practice your footwork, and timing.
fgxpanzerz’s gone mad?
fgxpanzerz wrote: “But most wing chun people’s wing chun is mixed with a power style like hung gar or choy li fut. If it weren’t we’d all be screwed since real power development doesn’t begin till you start hitting the wooden man.”
What the F? Maybe I misunderstood. Are you saying unless combined with another ‘power style’, WC has no power until you progress to the wooden dummy? This makes no sense to me at all.
Duncan-confused-again 
we’d all be screwed since real power development doesn’t begin till you start hitting the wooden man.
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D.amn! I thought it wasn’t until you start eating with wooden spoons!
“if this were true, then how would you explain everyone’s wing Chun being mixed with other things. I can’t say everyone. But most wing chun people’s wing chun is mixed with a power style like hung gar or choy li fut. If it weren’t we’d all be screwed since real power development doesn’t begin till you start hitting the wooden man.”
I am not sure what you are talking about here. I have been to a couple of schools and even the schools I didnt necessarily like seemed to be practicing wing chun without much of a mixture.
No offense Anerlich and Stuff but I feel there are only two reasons to add other arts to your wing chun. The first is just an interest in doing other arts, which is fine, unless you are going to teach and mix those arts into your wing chun, and call it wingchun. The second is that you dont have a deep enough understanding of your wingchun and so have to fill the ‘gaps’ with another art instead of using what you have before you. Wingchun is a simple and yet wonderfully complex art and it has a full and robust fighting strategy that doesnt recquire that you fill in gaps.
My initial commet was not meant to be smart azz, it was a true statement. We dont learn to fight at ‘long range’ in wing chun becuase it isnt necessary. A TKD guy wants to fight you get in close, a muy thai guy wants to fight you, get in close, another wingchun guy wants to fight you, get in close.
If you practice several arts you spread yourself thin, and you end up trying to fight others on thier own terms. Wingchun is an aggressivley responsive art, not technique based. You can play the if and or game all day long but until you are fighting you have no idea what will work in any given situation and so you learn to adapt at all times. this to me doesnt mean adopting other styles or other techniques,just using your wingchun in any situation that comes along.
On cross training:
Get a base FIRST. Don’t try to jump into two or more arts that cover the same territory at the same time. Doing both MT and WC all at once will make your life miserable–probably–unless you are a rare and gifted athlete.
If you are dead set on cross training, do two things that have next to no relationship to each other, like catchwrestling and WC or wrestling and WC or Judo and WC or Sambo and WC—catch my drift? Learning two stand-up striking predominant arts is going to be awfully hard on you–not just from a mechanics perspective, but from a strategy perspective.
But, that’s just my opinion I more or less agree with Anerlich about the totality of the experience, but I certainly think you need to establish a base of skill in WC, as old jong suggested, before you go looking to add-on.
Caveat: I’m not a WC guy. Cheers.
Merryprankster you crosstraining baztard! You wont pull them to the darkside of crosstraining, you wont do it!!! 
Why add another style. One of my kung fu brothers trains in other styles and seems to have an answer to what we are currently working on from one of his other styles. Sifu usually proceeds to show him how WC would handle what he is attempting to do and it is always more direct and effective. In a real life fighting situation you need to be quick and direct. I have kung fu brothers who have trained in styles that have big kicks and they have abandoned them for WC. We sometimes enlist them to use their kicking style to spar against and they are not very effective once the gap is closed and WC is applied.
pvwingchun–sounds like your training brother doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut. On the other hand, as anerlich pointed out, there’s some very real benefits to other styles–you just shouldn’t try to mix and match before you understand what’s going on–like suggesting an answer from another style when you don’t know what the WC answer is.
sorry for the confusion
let me restate what I tried to say earlier. Someone told me a story once by a guy. He and Robert Chu were having a discussion about power development in Wing Chun. Robert Chu said that there is power development in the forms of pure wing chun, shifting in chum kiu for example. The other guy disagreed because he said Robert CHu’s and everyone elses wing chun was ALREADY “tainted” by another art thereby making it not pure wing chun, if such a thing really exists. So the other guy told Robert Chu(paraprasing ofcourse), “Ok. Train a woman in “pure” wing chun for a few years and then have her come kick my a$$.” She still hasn’t come to beat his a$$.
I didnt mean mixed like jeet kune do. I meant that wing chun incorporates some things from power styles like lama, choy li fut, or hung gar. If you’ve only studied wing chun, yor not going to be able to see how wing chun is tainted. Tainted sounds like such a bad word but i’m quoting the guy from the story who didnt mean tainted in a bad sense.
fgxpanzerz
Your generalization about most wing chun being “tainted” is just your opinion.And everyone specially on the net has an opinion of some kind.
There is a difference between individualizing wing chun to make it reflexive for oneself and importing other styles into it. There are lots of folks including myself who do just wing chun. Many things about the usage of the human body, mind and spirit are subject matter for many styles. Using a wing chun perspective on these things does not mean tainting the style.
Regarding your comments on women and the art. It is laced with
male chauvinism. You just have not met the right women.
Anerlich is entitled to his opinion and his findings and I respect his views. BUT. Mine are different. The deeper i have gone into wing chun- the more it
reassures me about the well rounded nature of the art and the waste of taking valuable time away from the art to learn some other…the last remark does not exclude caredully observing other arts- time permitting..