PRAYING MANTIS / BAGUA / WING CHUN / SHOTOKAN / GOJU / TAE KWON DO / KENPO / TAI CHI / SHAOLIN
We will be hosting our second championship qualifier for the CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE.
We have divisions for Feather weight (125-130 lbs), Light weight (135-145), middle weight (150 – 160), Super middle weight (165-175 lbs), and heavy weight (180 plus)
This event is open to traditional martial artist only! Presentation of style solo routine is required.
For more info call (212) 426-4666 or visit us at 1950 3rd. (corner of 107th street) 3rd. floor.
Event will air live on Pay Per View (Will you be our next Champion)?
[QUOTE=YungChun;1003390]How are those BJJ/MT forms coming along? :D[/QUOTE]
oh i see so styles without forms need not apply, since some forms of southern mantis only teach roads and not forms they should not apply then, same for the bagua guys that don’t do forms just single palm changes…but anyone doing a modern wushu form can join in cool :rolleyes:
Yes old school thai has forms, ell the traditional dance done before each fight would clasify as a form in most schools, afterall it contains the schools signature moves
and i am sure i could string enough moves together from BJJ to make up a form, afterall unless the judging pannel is made up of experts from all styles how the f*ck are they going to know if my form is real or not?
PS: if I teach a pile of Muay Thai guys Heian 1 can they entire the competition? you said “shotokan” and Heian 1 is shotokan and pretty much every person on the planet can do it
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1003478]PS: if I teach a pile of Muay Thai guys Heian 1 can they entire the competition? you said “shotokan” and Heian 1 is shotokan and pretty much every person on the planet can do it[/QUOTE]
Perhaps he’s just trying to make it where its not another MMA match? Muay Thai and BJJ are great, but he’s looking for the guys who don’t do things that can be classified as “sports” as well.
[QUOTE=Frost;1003454]oh i see so styles without forms need not apply, since some forms of southern mantis only teach roads and not forms they should not apply then, same for the bagua guys that don’t do forms just single palm changes…but anyone doing a modern wushu form can join in cool :rolleyes:
Yes old school thai has forms, ell the traditional dance done before each fight would clasify as a form in most schools, afterall it contains the schools signature moves
and i am sure i could string enough moves together from BJJ to make up a form, afterall unless the judging pannel is made up of experts from all styles how the f*ck are they going to know if my form is real or not?[/QUOTE]
I didn’t make the rules. The people who are running the show did. Personally, it shouldn’t matter what style a person does. With regards to the forms the original MT did have forms and I don’t mean the dance before modern MT matches. I know this because I watched forms practice when I was a Marine in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Vankuen;1003502]Perhaps he’s just trying to make it where its not another MMA match? Muay Thai and BJJ are great, but he’s looking for the guys who don’t do things that can be classified as “sports” as well.
I guess that means Sanshou’s out too.[/QUOTE]
From what I heard for the people running the event they want to have people who have forms in their respective styles get out there and try what they’ve been learning to test if it works or not.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1003605]From what I heard for the people running the event they want to have people who have forms in their respective styles get out there and try what they’ve been learning to test if it works or not.[/QUOTE]
Not actually singling you out in particular, these are general observations but wouldn’t it be better to test what you do against those who know what they are doing as opposed to others who might just be clueless themselves?
I was raised to think that CMA was superior to ALL and that you proved it in fights. Today I don’t necessarrily believe the hype but I do think that if you want to see where you sit on the scale you open the field up
Nothing wrong with these kinds of comps, imo, since TMA’s have taken a credibility hit in recent decades (due to the mma craze) for not enough hard contact sparring/fighting tournaments/comps against other stylists, etc.
This kind of thing is a good place to start for many TMA guys.
And if they graduate to more open fighting tournaments as time passes - all the better…
including eventually against stylists who use wrestling, grappling, takedowns, and groundfighting as part of (or mostly all of) their game.
You’ve got to start somehere, and these kinds of comps might be just the place for many TMA guys to get some good hard contact fighting experience against people not from their own schools.
[QUOTE=Ultimatewingchun;1003747]Nothing wrong with these kinds of comps, imo, since TMA’s have taken a credibility hit in recent decades (due to the mma craze) for not enough hard contact sparring/fighting tournaments/comps against other stylists, etc.
This kind of thing is a good place to start for many TMA guys.
And if they graduate to more open fighting tournaments as time passes - all the better…
including eventually against stylists who use wrestling, grappling, takedowns, and groundfighting as part of (or mostly all of) their game.
You’ve got to start somehere, and these kinds of comps might be just the place for many TMA guys to get some good hard contact fighting experience against people not from their own schools.[/QUOTE]
Agreed and who wants to see fight after fight go to the ground? Not me anyway.. If they did almost none of those guys would get the chance to actually use their stuff..
If anyone has ever sparred with other Southern styles you know it can be a very interesting experience and the VT feels very much at home.. a good experience..
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1003732]Not actually singling you out in particular, these are general observations but wouldn’t it be better to test what you do against those who know what they are doing as opposed to others who might just be clueless themselves?
I was raised to think that CMA was superior to ALL and that you proved it in fights. Today I don’t necessarrily believe the hype but I do think that if you want to see where you sit on the scale you open the field up[/QUOTE]
Like I said previously. It wasn’t my idea. Our guys in S.NJ fight all styles. You can contact the people who run the show for their explanation.
[QUOTE=Ultimatewingchun;1003747]Nothing wrong with these kinds of comps, imo, since TMA’s have taken a credibility hit in recent decades (due to the mma craze) for not enough hard contact sparring/fighting tournaments/comps against other stylists, etc.
This kind of thing is a good place to start for many TMA guys.
And if they graduate to more open fighting tournaments as time passes - all the better…
including eventually against stylists who use wrestling, grappling, takedowns, and groundfighting as part of (or mostly all of) their game.
You’ve got to start somehere, and these kinds of comps might be just the place for many TMA guys to get some good hard contact fighting experience against people not from their own schools.[/QUOTE]
You took the words right out of my mouth. People who want to compete go to MT, Boxing, or MMA gyms. “Most” people in TMA schools join for various reasons. Introducing them to some fighting is better than none at all.
