Wing Chun in a Phone Booth

Got this from another thread…its too funny to me…Made me laugh!

But realistically with absence of a phone booth. Wing chun would have a grave advatage over MT, MMA and a boxer in an enclose space like a public bathroom stall. or a narrow alley way between apartment buidings where hooks or round house kicks would be restricted.

If you were in an enclose area where you couldnt throw wide open power punches and kicks with out injuring yourself, WC would be ideal. With its linear attacks you move right up the center line with your body behind the attack!!!

QUESTION: Since in real life we may not always be fighting with in inclose space like a bathroom stall how do we make open wide space that inclose space for our opponent when fighting!!! How do we use our wing chun concepts to give him few options and force him to fight short range with us?

If you would have actually paid attention you would have understood the analogy.
And it has very little to do with range.

In a nutshell..most Southern short-hand systems (as well as Hung-Ga) seek to attack the attack-immediately close with the attacker as he attempts to launch his strike,(intercept his intention) shutting him down, maintaining constant forward pressure while striking-until you are done.

so.. not only do I fight in a phonebooth, but I attack you while you are attempting to leave the booth, push you in, and smother you.
Then I kick over the phone booth.

[QUOTE=TenTigers;1155293]so.. not only do I fight in a phonebooth, but I attack you while you are attempting to leave the booth, push you in, and smother you.
Then I kick over the phone booth.[/QUOTE]

Don’t forget chaining the phone booth to the back of a pick-up and driving away with it !

[QUOTE=TenTigers;1155291]In a nutshell..most Southern short-hand systems (as well as Hung-Ga) seek to attack the attack-immediately close with the attacker as he attempts to launch his strike,(intercept his intention) shutting him down, maintaining constant forward pressure while striking-until you are done.[/QUOTE]

And do that in as much of a minimal “area” as possible.

I am sorry if you feel i took your comment out of context…I just took what i glimpse over and it reminded of this movie i saw awhile ago…an i sat there an thought if ole boy practice Wing Chun he he wouldnt be getting dusted so bad in that small hall space. Ne way…go ahead and reassert your feelings of your opinions as you see fit?

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1155290]If you would have actually paid attention you would have understood the analogy.
And it has very little to do with range.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TenTigers;1155291]In a nutshell..most Southern short-hand systems (as well as Hung-Ga) seek to attack the attack-immediately close with the attacker as he attempts to launch his strike,(intercept his intention) shutting him down, maintaining constant forward pressure while striking-until you are done.[/QUOTE]

In a phone booth hung ga, choy li fut and other styles would have limited mobility against wing chun…WC would have an advantage!

[QUOTE=TenTigers;1155293]so.. not only do I fight in a phonebooth, but I attack you while you are attempting to leave the booth, push you in, and smother you.
Then I kick over the phone booth.[/QUOTE]

Wow thats cold blooded…I like it…you may just be ready to become apprentice of the dark side!

In a phone booth hung ga, choy li fut and other styles would have limited mobility against wing chun…WC would have an advantage!

Why on earth would you think that?

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1155296]Don’t forget chaining the phone booth to the back of a pick-up and driving away with it ![/QUOTE]

This technique, by the way, works best with a Porta-John. Just sayin’.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1155299]Why on earth would you think that?[/QUOTE]
I was gonna say that…

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1155285]How do we use our wing chun concepts to give him few options and force him to fight short range with us?[/QUOTE]

Do you have any answers of your own on this? This is a pretty broad question as it stands now. It’s almost like asking “how do we fight with our WCK”?

[QUOTE=WingChunABQ;1155301]This technique, by the way, works best with a Porta-John. Just sayin’.[/QUOTE]

haha, that’s a funky visual - dragging a guy around behind a pickup truck chained inside a porta-john!

[QUOTE=JPinAZ;1155307]Do you have any answers of your own on this? This is a pretty broad question as it stands now. It’s almost like asking “how do we fight with our WCK”?[/QUOTE]

I know nothing…educate me great grand master of all fightedom!

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1155298]In a phone booth hung ga, choy li fut and other styles would have limited mobility against wing chun…WC would have an advantage![/QUOTE]

If you train your “elbow” skill like in the following form clip, you will have better advantage than WC. Some of the northern TCMA systems do train “elbow” seriously. There was a fight in an office that 1 person had to handle 8 opponents (small space, multiple opponents). Through the whole fight, the elbow striking was only used. There were no punch, kick, lock, throw, ground game in that fight.

In a phone booth, you may have to punch 3 times to knock down one person. You may drop one person just by one single elbow. When you deal with multiple opponents in a small space, 3 punches to a person may be a “luxury”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21vpG6jqcE

Your argument is pretty invalid because most WC schools STILL don’t train realistically.

Unless it’s an Alan OR student of course.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1155322]If you train your “elbow” skill like in the following form clip, you will have better advantage than WC. Some of the northern TCMA systems do train “elbow” seriously. There was a fight in an office that 1 person had to handle 8 opponents (small space, multiple opponents). Through the whole fight, the elbow striking was only used. There were no punch, kick, lock, throw, ground game in that fight.

In a phone booth, you may have to punch 3 times to knock down one person. You may drop one person just by one single elbow. When you deal with multiple opponents in a small space, 3 punches to a person may be a “luxury”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21vpG6jqcE[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of elbows in the Biu Jee form.

You do know some WC lineages has an elbow form right?

Ne way…even in small space you may not be in elbow range. If try to launch an elbow from the outside your going to get trapped or controlled. The best time to throw an elbow is when you are too close for your opponent to stop you from making contact.

Elbows should be thrown when your in the lions mouth!

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1155322]If you train your “elbow” skill like in the following form clip, you will have better advantage than WC. Some of the northern TCMA systems do train “elbow” seriously. There was a fight in an office that 1 person had to handle 8 opponents (small space, multiple opponents). Through the whole fight, the elbow striking was only used. There were no punch, kick, lock, throw, ground game in that fight.

In a phone booth, you may have to punch 3 times to knock down one person. You may drop one person just by one single elbow. When you deal with multiple opponents in a small space, 3 punches to a person may be a “luxury”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21vpG6jqcE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chadderz;1155323]Your argument is pretty invalid because most WC schools STILL don’t train realistically.

Unless it’s an Alan OR student of course.[/QUOTE]

Define realistically?

Do you Train with Alan Or?

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1155337]Define realistically?

Do you Train with Alan Or?[/QUOTE]

You define realistically, do you train with Stan? :wink:

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1155337]Define realistically?

Do you Train with Alan Or?[/QUOTE]

As close to practical combat as possible, eg, sparring and losing forms in favour of function.

And no, but I’ve seen him, and I like the way he thinks, and he spars regularly.