Hey Gus, what was that BJJ guy’s name? This way, when he makes his way to my school, I’ll remember not to bow!
Of course, after the a$$whippin you gave him, he probably will stay away from Kung-Fu schools altogether. Thanx for representin’ !
Hope this helps!
Every practitioner of any style, this includes wing chun partitioners too, need to always develop familiarity to moves not normaly familiar or inherent within their own style. Wing Chun people especially, need to continually train their touch sensory perception to recognize moves and techniques outside of the confines of chi sao, such as hooks, which I now to most WC practitioners it’s considered an illegal action during double hand chi sao. To that I say yes and no. Yes! as a practitioner you should be endeavoring to keep your lines tight, but if the objective of chi sao is to sense openings and to train your hands to be perceptive, your training partner is going to need to throw an occasional hook, a kick, or a grapple for your sake so you can learn to recognize these actions. The Wing chun stylist can add more range to his wc if he experiments in this way. In fact! if your a grappler or Mixed Martial artist, you can also benefit enormously by doing some form of chi sao so you can feel your opponents every move before he can finish initiating it, allowing you to perceive his every move so you can cut him off every time instead of trying to over power the guy as I’ve seen many do (which is not every effective tactic if you want to conserve energy).
Personally in the past I had sparred with many other people (Karate, Jiu-jitsu, kempo, teakwando, shaolin, etc) with far more experience than me, and I must say wing chun theories and applications gave me a huge advantage in dealing with almost anything they had to throw at me in spite of my lack of knowledge, sparring and practice time which they already had over me. So even if I had never practiced how to counter a spinning back kick, WC gave me enough protection to somehow counter it at the time. It’s a very conservative art form. It’s not fancy. It’s meant to just get the job done and move on. Very straight forward! It’s definitely an old mans kung fu! Meaning there’s a lot of wisdom behind it!
Later!
Actualy after he came to, he asked ahh did I take you to the ground?? I said yea sure kid. He wanted to join after that but I sugested that he might be more comfortable at kioto jiu jitsu, a local Gracie school. I just didn’t feel like having the entire clan after me if you know what I mean. I made sure we parted on good terms.
A properly trained BJJ student would have used kicks and punches to close the gap to initiate the takedown. The BJJ takedown is our weak link and often overlooked in training but there’s a proper way in executing the takedown. If it is done wrong, you can get knocked out. In your case, you avoided the takedown and knocked him out. He deserved what he got for going for a cheapshot takedown.
Hi, emerald phoenix. I have studied both Ip Man Ving Tsun and Qi Xing Tang Lang Pai. I considered it to be great, thinking outside of my own style. So one thing to remember its always a good idea to venture out of your own four walls, just as you have done. And search around for systems that will address all ranges of combat. But to get back to the point, at the Wing Chun school I attended. We would regularly have people from different systems that we would spar from medium to occasionally full contact. And find out what we were missing in our fighting approach, one thing that helped was alot of us were already from different styles, or were studying different styles so fighting different styles was nothing new. But now im studying Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun Kuen. I consider it exceptionally beneficial, it doesnt address the particular system that were fighting but it addresses the realms of time, space and energy for the purpose of fighting.
So instead of thinking that the guy your fighting is a persay Tae Kwon Do guy. Then that means to combat him ill have to learn Tae Kwon Do, that kind of thinking is wrong which means that for as many people as you were to fight you would have to learn all their styles in order to fight that particular person.
In Hung Fa Yi they use the Saam Mo Kiu approach along with the principle of time, space and energy. with the ranges of combat, which is exceptionally beneficial for people that may participate in full contact fights, etc… But that just my thought.
Its interesting hearing everyone elses. Anyways i babbled on to much.
take care,
zai jian
Well Put
[QUOTE=So instead of thinking that the guy your fighting is a persay Tae Kwon Do guy. Then that means to combat him ill have to learn Tae Kwon Do, that kind of thinking is wrong which means that for as many people as you were to fight you would have to learn all their styles in order to fight that particular person.
In Hung Fa Yi they use the Saam Mo Kiu approach along with the principle of time, space and energy. with the ranges of combat, which is exceptionally beneficial for people that may participate in full contact fights, etc… But that just my thought.
Its interesting hearing everyone elses. Anyways i babbled on to much.[/QUOTE]
I couldn’t agree with you more Chang. I’ve personally have always beleived that if you approach the fight game as a problem to be solved, that wing chun as a concept or idea,(not a style), can solve many or all problems, thus never having to resort to learning another style, (As many practicioners have done or will do - suplimenting), but rather learning to find ways within the concept ideas to deal with any issue or problem that may arise. Of course this is not to say that we as wing chun practitioners shouldn’t practice familiarizing ourselves with what to do against say a spinning back kick, or a BJJ take down maneuver or any posiible hold. We should always be practicing to recognize all possible counters, and scenerios that may occur. This idea or way of practicing is also at the heart of wing chun philosophy of knowing our opennings and how to best protect it without compromising ourselves in the act. Always seeking the higher ground (Sun Tsu).
Many seem to forget that the whole idea or objective of wing chun is to be practical and economical in motion and in expendature of energy. Wing Chun is more than a mere style, it’s really an adoptable concept of ideas that can easily evolve differently in appearance as ones experience progresses from one practitioner to the next within the same art or even school! Which would explain much why a lot of masters from the same teacher (ie…Yip Man), all don’t look the same or teach alike. But, their core philosophy is still the same!
zai jian!!!