The problem of sharing (over the Net) is the experience is only limited to words. You can’t “try” over the Net. Plus, there are often close minded but very verbal “authorities” who refuse to step back and see the truth.
Therefore, when the idea is too radical, instead of open discussions the idea is often quashed and the person presenting the idea ridiculed.
Plus, there are people who plagiarises and don’t give credit to the person who comes up with the idea. Seriously, who would like to have their ideas stolen just to benefit some thief?
For these reasons, I don’t blame people for not wanting to share the best stuff over the Net.
I for one, prefers to settle by crossing hands. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, no colourful language shall revive it. No argument. Simple.
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Therefore, when the idea is too radical, instead of open discussions the idea is often quashed and the person presenting the idea ridiculed.
((Happens frequent;y enough. People behind keyboards specially anonumous ones do not
always take responsibility for their actions))joy
Plus, there are people who plagiarises and don’t give credit to the person who comes up with the idea. Seriously, who would like to have their ideas stolen just to benefit some thief?
((Plagiarism not only by passes giving credit but attempts to take credit falsely.Has happened in this forum and some people have been warned also for ad hominem obscenities,))joy
For these reasons, I don’t blame people for not wanting to share the best stuff over the Net.
((And many knowledgeable people do not chit chat in net forums))joy
I for one, prefers to settle by crossing hands. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, no colourful language shall revive it. No argument. Simple.
((True enough. Or discuss things in civil fashion. Or discuss in various gatherings))joy
[quote=imperialtaichi;1150577]the problem of sharing (over the net) is the experience is only limited to words. You can’t “try” over the net. Plus, there are often close minded but very verbal “authorities” who refuse to step back and see the truth.
Therefore, when the idea is too radical, instead of open discussions the idea is often quashed and the person presenting the idea ridiculed.
Plus, there are people who plagiarises and don’t give credit to the person who comes up with the idea. Seriously, who would like to have their ideas stolen just to benefit some thief?
For these reasons, i don’t blame people for not wanting to share the best stuff over the net.
I for one, prefers to settle by crossing hands. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, no colourful language shall revive it. No argument. Simple.
Plus, there are people who plagiarises and don’t give credit to the person who comes up with the idea. Seriously, who would like to have their ideas stolen just to benefit some thief?[/QUOTE]
You can’t be really suggesting that some on this forum actually be guilty of … ;)
From my own perspective, and after being side-lined, insulted, ignored and sometimes even threatened and bullied on this forum since I first signed up, I think a better question is:
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1150615]Why should we share our best stuff??[/QUOTE]
If you want to run for president, you may need to visit every families, go on TV, newspaper, and let people to know who you are. When appear in front of the public eyes, you have to prove that you will be a good president by presenting your idea. The follow answer just won’t work.
person A: When you become US president, how will you balance budget?
president candidate: That’s a secret and I won’t release it to the public.
If you have a book to publish or a DVD to sell in the near future, you may have to let people to know your name as much as possible. If nobody knows who you are, your book and DVD will not have any customers.
Besides businese reason, to help others is always a good thing to do. The day when you die, your knowledge will go with you. Whether you are willing to share or not won’t make any difference. People may remember you as a person willing to share, or a person who keeps everything to yourself. The decision will be all yours.
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1150615]From my own perspective, and after being side-lined, insulted, ignored and sometimes even threatened and bullied on this forum since I first signed up, I think a better question is:
Why should we share our best stuff??[/QUOTE]
In that regard you do have a point.
[QUOTE=LoneTiger108;1150615]Why should we share our best stuff??[/QUOTE]
If you are talking about Judo forum, Bullsh!tdo form, or MAP forum, I can understand your reason. This forum is not that bad IMO.
I did have the following conversation in Judo forum:
A: Can someone help me on …?
B: You should ask your teacher.
C: Don’t expect to get any useful information online.
D: You may try …
B: What make you think that you are qualified to answer A’s question?
C: That’s the most ridiculous suggestion that I have ever heard.
D:
In that kind of environment, it’s better to tuck your tail between your legs, run like hell, and never go back.
Sharing? Type even one word in those forums will be waste your valuable lifetime. Again, this forum is not that bad IMO.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150625]If you want to run for president, you may need to visit every families, go on TV, newspaper, and let people to know who you are. When appear in front of the public eyes, you have to prove that you will be a good president by presenting your idea. The follow answer just won’t work.
person A: When you become US president, how will you balance budget?
president candidate: That’s a secret and I won’t release it to the public.
If you have a book to publish or a DVD to sell in the near future, you may have to let people to know your name as much as possible. If nobody knows who you are, your book and DVD will not have any customers.
Besides businese reason, to help others is always a good thing to do. The day when you die, your knowledge will go with you. Whether you are willing to share or not won’t make any difference. People may remember you as a person willing to share, or a person who keeps everything to yourself. The decision will be all yours.
there are 2 things that you don’t want to share:
Your best moves.
How to counter it.[/QUOTE]
Well if we were trying to sell something or promote ourself, that would be different story, but most people are not, so your reasoning does not apply to most.
[QUOTE=Robinhood;1150651]Well if we were trying to sell something or promote ourself, that would be different story, but most people are not, so your reasoning does not apply to most.[/QUOTE]
I say…if someone doesn’t want to share their best stuff. so be it…
I for one dont hide anything…something i learn from my sifu, sparring with a non-wing chun opponent, or self realization i share openly…
In my mind their are no best moves…No counters…It boils down who is the better fighter. I dont care if you know know the whole wing chun system or just the best parts…
If the person is stronger, faster, and more accurate than you…then you loose…
Where i come from the best moves when fighting are
-A gun (Preferably automatic)
-Atleast Twenty friends to help you fight
If you think your Wing Chun has some closed door secret techniques in the year 2012 kudos to you and your fairy tale land. We dont live in the times of swords and spears. We live in the time of the AK-47. If your in a real life or death situtation most of the time it wont be hand to hand combat with a druken bully trying to prove a point…It will be shot into the crowd at you where you cant see the assialant. Which your secret WC techniques that you should share with every one doesnt really matter!!!
First off let me state if someone feels their WC shouldnt be shared with every one thats their business. I totally disagree with the reasoning. But its their business to not share certain aspects on public forum, with friends or with family.
But my pet peeve is when someone says to me “you shouldnt be sharing that information with the public.” My Question is how is what im sharing with you gonna stop my 12" Guage shotgun? Unless i take you to gun range you dont have no life or death kung fu…If you add a knife, machete, or metal baseball to your fight you may be actually able to take a life…but i doubt very seriously you will be able to defeat someone with a magial chi ball from your spirit.
So by all means keep your hidden techniques a secret…if i decide to discuss some thing i like about wing chun…dont give me any back lip about it…Because remember wing chun is fist style..Not a super deadly dimak style that kills your opponents in 10 seconds!
Personally the reason for sharing is to hear counter arguments and different perspectives and POVs that can provide a platform for introspection and self development (even if it is only through affirmation that the original POV was correct). Only an arrogant fool believes that they have all of the answers and is unwilling to learn from others. Without sharing there is no dialogue and no learning. Sharing “best stuff”, I couldn’t comment on. All of my Wing Chun is equally valuable and it is often the most humble of basic punches that become my “best stuff” when under pressure. Only my humble opinion, have a great new year.
[QUOTE=wingchunIan;1150695]Personally the reason for sharing is to hear counter arguments and different perspectives and POVs that can provide a platform for introspection and self development (even if it is only through affirmation that the original POV was correct). Only an arrogant fool believes that they have all of the answers and is unwilling to learn from others. Without sharing there is no dialogue and no learning. Sharing “best stuff”, I couldn’t comment on. All of my Wing Chun is equally valuable and it is often the most humble of basic punches that become my “best stuff” when under pressure. Only my humble opinion, have a great new year.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1150633]If you are talking about Judo forum, Bullsh!tdo form, or MAP forum, I can understand your reason. This forum is not that bad IMO.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, this is one of the most civilized and open minded forum in cyberspace.
There was one clown in another forum, supposedly an “authority”. He used to redicule everything I posted and made numerous personal attacks. When asked to show what he could do, his answer was “I’m a critic. I critique. I don’t need to show anything.”
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1150730]To be fair, this is one of the most civilized and open minded forum in cyberspace.
There was one clown in another forum, supposedly an “authority”. He used to redicule everything I posted and made numerous personal attacks. When asked to show what he could do, his answer was “I’m a critic. I critique. I don’t need to show anything.”
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1150730]To be fair, this is one of the most civilized and open minded forum in cyberspace. . . . . . [/QUOTE]
I agree. Though things get heated here sometimes I think the generally there are some good people here and I’ve met a few of them.
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1150577]The problem of sharing (over the Net) is the experience is only limited to words. You can’t “try” over the Net. Plus, there are often close minded but very verbal “authorities” who refuse to step back and see the truth.
Therefore, when the idea is too radical, instead of open discussions the idea is often quashed and the person presenting the idea ridiculed.
Plus, there are people who plagiarises and don’t give credit to the person who comes up with the idea. Seriously, who would like to have their ideas stolen just to benefit some thief?
For these reasons, I don’t blame people for not wanting to share the best stuff over the Net.
I for one, prefers to settle by crossing hands. If it works, it works. If it doesn’t, no colourful language shall revive it. No argument. Simple.
Cheers,
John[/QUOTE]
You are correc..Also back in the day WC information was almost impossible to get. If you got it it was a long acd costly road.
