Originally posted by Dark Knight
Thats the biggest part of it for me. (Especially the hotties)
what tournaments you go to?
Scrima’s tourney had a gang of hotties from various locales
Originally posted by Shaolinlueb
i dont know about this topic sometimes. if you use what you leanr in calss, you can seriously injure your opponent, unless all you do is tournament sparring. kung fu techniques can hurt people when applied right. sparring is more like a kickboxing match to me.
Naaa… You poke the forehead instead of the eyes, grab pants around inner-thigh instead of actual groin, ect. It teaches character to bounce off the floor a few dosen times.
You learn to block faster when you have an actual blade comming at you with a training partner who is actually trying to touch you with some intent, not that mamsy-pamsy stab-in-the-general-vacinity-of the-other-person you see in some schools.
Originally posted by Becca
P.S. I have seen fighters who could, and do, use their art the way it was designed to be used. I have seen my Sifus spar. I know that one can spar at 100% and still have the technique visable. May not be your experience, but it is mine…:rolleyes:
i have too. my sifu and 2 sihings do it all the time. im jsut not at the level yet.
Originally posted by Becca
Naaa… You poke the forehead instead of the eyes, grab pants around inner-thigh instead of actual groin, ect. It teaches character to bounce off the floor a few dosen times.
yeah but wheres the fun in that
Originally posted by unixfudotnet
destroying life and what is beautiful in this world will always be something that is bad, and i do not want to do it at all. like all martial arts common theme, only apply what is needed.
destroying life and what is beautiful has no place in martial arts, but stopping an attacker with only what is needed is another. just simply stop the attack, stop the danger. no not destroy it, just simply stop it.
Oh boy:rolleyes:
Somebody’s been watching the ‘Kung Fu’ marathon on TV!
I think this entire subject really depends on who we are talking about. Yes many people do not use their form or style well when sparring/fighting, we must also remember that this is the Shaolin Kung Fu forum. In general, these people that everyone is talking about, not using form, were not trained at Shaolin starting from the age of 4-5 in traditional Shaolin methods. I can guarantee you that if you were to watch any high level Shaolin Warrior “sparr” you would see a great deal of Shaolin Style. As a matter of fact, that is all you would see. Many “masters”, especially in America, are self proclaimed after only 5 - 10 years. Try 5-10 years of hardened Shaolin training. I am in no way saying that is me, my Sifu on the other hand is. Raised at Shaolin until the age of 14, you can see his “style” in every action he does. Individuals like this man who are hard pressed by tradition and focus every free thought on their martial art, are the individuals that you will see using their form and style when they fight. People like myself however who have, in contrast, a very small amount of training and practice, will not be able to act in such a way. We must remember traditionally in Chinese martial arts, one is not considered a true master until Wu Wei has been accomplished, ie; one can act without concious thought of the matter at hand. When this is acheived then your form and style will be an automatic response to any martial situation.
Dear all,
I think most of you have forgotten about the cost of a private tution.
Grandmaster Wong’s seminar - about $71, 21 hours $1500
one of the Gracie family charged $250 per hour, 21 hours $5250
one of the famous wing chun teachers in Britain charged £70 per hour, 21 hours
£1470 or about $2205
average price of a private lesson in Britain is about £30 per hour 21 hours, £630
or $945
I am not sure about the cost of an average private lesson in American is, but us assume it is $40. 21 hours $840.
You will noticed that Grandmaster Wong is charging people about the twice the market rate, but below what the Gracie is charging.
34th Grandmaster of the ninja paid 1000 yens per month in 1960s in order to learn a sword techniques.
Grandmaster Yip Man paid 12 tales of sliver per month in order to learn wing chun ( he paid that price for at least 5 years). Money needed to pay for a wedding each money.
He charged $8 HK per month for his commerical class. His private class cost $300 HK. This is where he taught the real stuff. All his students like Bruce Lee, Hawkin Cheung, Duncan Leung etc. have to team or paid him individual for several years in order to learn wing chun. For four years private lessons were $14400 HK - completing the whole wing chun system.
Please do not call me stupid if you do not know what the market rate is.
Of course you cannot learn much in 21 hours. If you can then you do not need a teacher at all. You may as well read a book or buy martial arts tapes.
Hitman
I HAVE THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION…
I got an answer, it doesnt matter if its external or internal.read
Footwork yup. naw thats it. I took alittle bit of boxing, its the footwork, the steping and manuevering methods. When doing Tai chi, or any kung-fu system, you have to allow tension from the body to sink to the dan-tein, and then this sinks to the ground THROUGH THE FEET, which energy ups up again though the knees. The center of gravity cant be right with out the feet being right… this movemet starts at the dantien but the energy comes from the ground (the feet or the first to get this) the upper body yeilds its tension to the dantien, and its sinking presses energy from the base thats why the dantien is the center of movement but you can move without energy and this cames from the feet
in boxing, its really the feet where the combat is. the hands just express what the legs and feet allow it to do.
if I try to through a punch at an angle or at a distance that is not probably align with my feet, then Iam off balance. I more exotic the art, the more complex the footwork, however the more exotic the art, the less people understand and respect its basics like the footwork…lololloll hhahahaha.
Dre
I grabbed these from another fourum
http://www.kungfuinaction.com/kfiaclips1.wmv
http://www.jiayo.com/videos/86_leitai.mov
http://www.hsing-i.com/pics/hammerdem.mpg
Please check out the kung fu forum on the question “who is to blame? Some thoughts”
Some of the answers also answered my question.
I am refering to my own experience only - some time spending a long time fight or sparring does not help you to improve your fighting skill. I did it for four years, 20 -35 minutes a day and 3-4 days a week sparring against different training partners. My fighting skills had not improved one bit, except that I am much faster and stronger. I am much better at attack, but my defensive skills were very poor. After getting no where for two years, I decide to change school. Unfortunately, it turns out that I am no better off than not joining a new school. I had to re-examine everything I did and find out where I gone wrong. My fighting skill has now improved.
To improve your skills - you need an experience coach or teacher and feed back from your partner.
If you just spar at high speed, you do not have the time to think or correct yourself. All your concern will be about survival or beat up your training partner. You only pick up a lot of bad habits that stay with you for rest of your life. You need to sit down and analyse what is wrong with your own fighting skills. This is a job for both you & your teacher.
Hitman
Originally posted by PangQuan
I think that, in regards to applying technique, and or style into your sparring matches, it is partially a responibility of the teacher to make sure each student understands the application for specific movements.
I disagree slightly. The teacher should be more concerned with whether or not the student understands the principle behind the movement. If he does, then the application will not be as much of a problem, as they will more easily be able to improvise.