Re: Why did MAs survive? (flame fest)
Nice post Ironhead. I love a good flame now and again…
Firstly, boxers get my respect. See the threads on the Southern forum. But, this thread is a joke. I’ll bite just to see what you’re made of… Sifu Monkey Boy surely outclasses you, and he broke down, you reckon you got more than he did?
Originally posted by IronHead
Assuming that a boxer can beat a TMA…
First demonstration of ignorance…its hardly worth pursuing at this point already. Of course, you realise they teach all the special forces in every country around the world Boxing because its so effective…
How did traditional martial arts survive? Were they fighting against styles that were even less effective?
You answered your own question, they did survive because they proved superior. Mostly by keeping the ignorant arrogant monkeys on the outer, but often by developing with the times while maintaining the lessons of the past. Compare a lifetime pursuit to a young man’s sporting adventure and you’ll always come up wanting. Its called depth and individual development.
Or did they used to be hardcore and they’ve just been wussified in the last 50 years?
[b]With the proliferation (you know what that word means? HINT: it doesn’t mean “dying off”) came dilution, even wussification, but there are still lines that are strong. Take a walk through NY Central Park at night yelling “SPM SUX” and you might meet some.
I’ve seen girls, kids and old folk doing boxing and target mit work in the park, I realise as boxers they must be incredibly deadly, but I somehow don’t shiver and cross the road when I see them… [/b]
But given the stories of untrained street thugs beating TMA blackbelts, how would TMAists win fights in order to preserve their arts back in the day?
[b]There is no such thing as a TMA “Blackbelt”, that’s a McKwoon thing.
Maybe you just live in the world of ****e TMA, rampant commercialism, fraud and a mentality of instant gratification? Back in the day fighters succeeded the same way they do now, through training, commitment (long term) and the skills of great teachers. [/b]
I mean back in the day. Not like now when people like to take martial arts classes to learn how to defend themselves but don’t like to get hit or spar in class (read: not actually learning how to defend themselves).
[b]Your ignorance is only out classed by your arrogance. Everybody will one day face a superior opponent, you mistakenly compare prizefighting with self defence, and brutality with art.
There will always be better, there will always be worse, this is life, and it has nothing to do with style, it has to do with natural selection, and individual commitment. There are fine boxers, but you can’t seem to accept there are fine TMA practitioners. This is your weakness, and one day, perhaps you will pay the toll.
If you kick my a$$ are you a better martial artist? If my Staffordshire Terrior takes a bite out of you a$$ is it a better martial artist? No, just a dangerous dumb animal. [/b]
Honestly, this thread is intended to be serious and not a troll attempt.
Bull****e - you’re just searching because your training leaves you insecure, unfulfilled and looking into the mirror whining, “there MUST be something MORE!!!”
Truth is, you tma bashers are all just worthless and weak. Worthless in that you can’t understand what you’re missing,
Weak in that you don’t have the discipline to understand that there are things you don’t know or understand.
See one whimpy TMA player and you think all are the same. Its not the style, its the man, so it is as it has always been.
