Ohhh…Sorry I must have missunderstood your post…I agree with you about the flashy kicks…I do not feel they would help too much in an incounter unless you have matered them…my only point was there is more than just two kicks in Northen…I myself don’t like all the jumpimg around I do in my school..thats one of the reasons I choose Sourthern, But the strech is better and the flex you gain help a Southern Stylist…errr…gotta go boss needs somthing…
peace
Snake
Snake_Fist,
just to further clarify – i stated that those were the only 2 jumping kicks i knew, not the only 2 in existance LOL
Okay, I have the answer to the question of northern vs southern. It’s a tie!! This is proven in a battle of Ku Yu Jeong (northern shaolin) and Tan Sam (Choy Li Fut). The two talked trash about each other’s style. Northern people said southren arts were too simple and has ridiculous breating excercises. Southern people said " northern style? All the flashy, flying around stuff? One hit and I can knock them down." Well those weren’t the exact words but yeah. One day they fought. The battle lasted 30 mintues. No one got hit. Everytime one would get close to a hit, the other would retreat just enough to get away and vice versa. The two master’s timing and judgement was so great, no one got hit. So they ended up being friends. They made an agreement. Tan Sam was Hong Sing choy li fut by the way. Tan sam said that when his students train good to be top students, he will send them over to Ku Yu Jeong’s northern shaolin school. Ku Yu Jeong said when he trains his students to be top students, he will send them to Tan Sam’s choy li fut school. So this mixing of choy li fut and northern shaolin is how the style " BUK SING CHOY LI FUT" was developed. BUK SING choy li fut, is similar to hong sing, but has wider stances and a few crescent kicks. So this battle that took place in China - documented in the history books- proves that southern and northern styles are equal. =] It was just interesting reading what people thought about northern vs southern. What do you guys think? Cool eh?
Snake_Fist.
Cool. What’s snake fist about? Always thought that snake was part of a larger system. Anyway about those kicks, you see different styles have different names for the same types of kicks. Afterall, there are only a few many ways a human leg can move.
It is not merely the act of kicking (which can be learned in a short time - that’s the simple part) What’s imortant is the strategy in using it - that’s different depending on what system you train in.
Odd Topic for a Southern Forum…
It seems the labels of “Northern” and “Southern” are abit too broad to be of any use, but here’s a couple wasted comments…
Everyone has heard the “Southern hands/Northern feet” axiom… Which could be expanded to infer that each School has gross misconceptions of the other…i.e. If you think Northern Styles are all just dancey Wushu, or Southern is all grunting Hung Ga, you don’t have a clue…
Hsing-I may very well be technically Northern, but the signature movement is classically Southern… The conservative kicking and sticking/iron bridge handwork of 7* Mantis makes it fit in here too… as well as the explosiveness of Bajiquan…
I think someone is confusing Fukien White Crane and Tibetan White Crane…
There are no animal forms in the original 10 Honan Shaolin…
The most painfully ignorant posts seem to dislike Choy Li Fut and Hung Ga… Most of the best Southern Styles do not use deep stances OR arm swinging much, if at all…
Southern Styles are “hung up” on Cantonese because Mandarin terms are improper and inauthentic for these systems and denote an unqualified Shi Fu…
Shuai Jiao is Mongolian and has nothin’ to do with N. Shaolin… not even Chinese in origin.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard so many references to Lion Dancing… SOMEONE is obsessed, though… Southern forms prance very little… maybe everybody wants to be in ShowBiz… Anyone have a Lion outfit for sale?.. 
Okay…
I’m done…
go ahead and delete me…
yawn
Northern vs southern
Me personally I have trained in both northern and southern kung fu. I am currently training in Hsing-I Hebei style as well as northern 5 animals but I have also trained in wing chun. What I can honestly say is basically repeating what others have said. You will find a mixture of northern and southern characteristics in both systems of kung fu. The truth is unless you compare styles against eachother, it is impossible to compare the two. You will find northern and southern versions of many kung fu styles and a lot of them will share the same types of punches, breathing exercises and kicks. After all, we only have two arms and two legs. Basically it isn’t what is better but what you personally look for in an art. With determination and a love for martial arts you can become a great fighter regardless of what style you do.
I have practiced both; as for southern (took choy lay fut).. there was so much kicks that was taught i swear to god it felt like i was in a TKD school, very wide stance, and a lot of trapping involved; however as for northern (tan tuei) i only saw the snap and push kick, the rest are moves used from forms; from MY experiences i would think in my opinion that north is better.
My friend told me southern kung-fu is used by peasents; and northern were used by royal guards etc.. pi qua of shaolin, and even baji are all used by the guards and choy lay fut, hung gar, wing chun was practiced all over.. from what i’ve heard think about it.
However I also heard that in historical times that the southerners won the battles that were issued north and south not vice-versa.
ere build a bridge. What a thread talk about starting crap who cares where it comes from if it works use it. My system “traditional wing chun” I use the name loosly so not to start more junk but I use boxing bjj n aikido and tai chi it works i use it. Would you not use a fork if it was from the second draw instead of the first no so boys n girls stop measuring. oh yeah if aliens came to take over earth would you talk trash bout northern vs southern no youd all biff the aliens together then steal there kewl stuff think of it like that we are all humans well most of us so get along and just fight train sleep fight train sleep over and over.
Why has someone randomly resurrected a pre-crash thread (and how? does this mean my old Wan King fist threads are still around somewhere?) ?
blame shaolin_allan
he brought back this 6 year old thread.
and now…well, he must die, plain and simple. 
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3)Twist the waist as if a snake
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Does a snake have a waist???
the man maketh the fight
lets end this 6 year old thread and realise the truth
[SIZE=“4”][/SIZE]THE MAN MAKES THE FIGHT NOT THE STYLE AND ALL MARTIAL ARTS HAVE SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT THEM OR THEY WOULDNT SURVIVE USDING HIGH KICKS OR LOW STANCES SOUTHERN OR NORTHERN IS ALL PEOPLES PREFERENCE AS IN WHAT WORKS FOR THEM!
trolling???
Kudos to newbie shaolin_allan for digging in the archives
But demerits for choosing such a lame thread to resurrect. At least, it hasn’t turned into the flame war it was six years ago. That was just silly.
… and it still is.
Glad I stayed away from this one.
-X-
well you the expert arn’t you “silly” sosage.lol
dig boy dig.hahahahalol
This thread is ridiculous! Come on…southern versus northern??? Really, I think by now everybody knows that southern is vastly superior.
[B]"Well east coast girls are hip
I really dig those styles they wear
And the southern girls with the way they talk
They knock me out when Im down there
The mid-west farmers daughters really make you feel alright
And the northern girls with the way they kiss
They keep their boyfriends warm at night
I wish they all could be california
I wish they all could be california
I wish they all could be california girls"[/B]
From the above, is it not obvious that the Northern Girls are superior? I’m sorry, but a lady that won’t stop talking until you’re unconscious does not a good time make.
Personally I think Eastern is better than Northern:rolleyes: …but that’s just me!!!
Think about it in terms of the United States and the north/south split. Who is ruling? Let’s get this going onto the political realm…In fact, I think this thread should be stickied and go through many transformations as it evolves from jaded beaten topic to jaded beaten topic.
Here’s one…
It’s not the style it is the person…But MMA is better because of how they train so it is about the style.