Does anyone have any video clips from these systems or know of websites were they can be downloaded??? I notice most of all southern systems all the stance are the same.
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http://www.choyleefut.com.au/update/gallery.asp Theres some Choy Lee Fut videoclips.
I think almost all shaolin based kung fu has the same kind of stances, including northern styles.
www.hungkuen.net has some vid clips
The differnece in Stances
Northern Kungfu stances are not as deep and low as southern styles. Northern uses more arcrobatics and kick than hand techniques in comparison to the southern styles. Northern style actually takes 10 yrs to learn. Southern stlye when it was created During the Manchu invasion of china was created so it could be learned to use for combat/ fighting in 3yrs. It took the Manchu longer to control southern china than it did nouthern.
Re: The differnece in Stances
Originally posted by SiHingJow
Northern Kungfu stances are not as deep and low as southern styles. Northern uses more arcrobatics and kick than hand techniques in comparison to the southern styles. Northern style actually takes 10 yrs to learn. Southern stlye when it was created During the Manchu invasion of china was created so it could be learned to use for combat/ fighting in 3yrs. It took the Manchu longer to control southern china than it did nouthern.
Ok, well, atleast some of the basic stances seem to be quite the same (horse, bow, cat etc.) but I can see some differences.
SiHingJow
I would be very interested in where you get your information about the “time requirements” for learning “Northern Style” and “Southern Style”, in addition to how you can possibly make such blanket statements in confidence.
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this is a vid that was posted up a few days ago by yutyeesam
http://hpccss.net/kevinchan/movie/pastmov4.wmv
i think its a pretty tight crane form.
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you can also find some jow ga videos at http://www.chanskungfu.com
chow lay fut crane, nice
Re: choy li fut
Originally posted by ZhouJiaQuan
[B]hey bro, whats up?
this is a vid that was posted up a few days ago by yutyeesam
http://hpccss.net/kevinchan/movie/pastmov4.wmv
i think its a pretty tight crane form.
train hard, get the fan down
peace [/B]
Anybody know what school this form is from (this particular dude I mean)?
I think is from Lee Koon Hung Hong Kong school.
oh
is that were its from, i was wondering that as well.
thanks
Actually this footage was shot in the early 1980s. The person in the video was one of Lee Koon Hung’s assistant instructors and can be seen in his book: Choy Lay Fut: The Dynamic Art of Fighting. I believe his name is Ng Chi Wai.
Peace.
Sihingjow, the stancework in most traditional northern systems is at least as deep, if not deeper than southern styles. Also most northern forms only have a handful of kicks in them. You’ve been looking at too much wushu and listening to too many Wing Chun teachers.
Also most northern forms only have a handful of kicks in them.
Hey Ben, this is not my experience. I have learned from Northern and southern styles and the Northern styles incorporate far more kicks and variety of kicks in the forms than the southern forms.
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Hi Kung Lek, however the Bak Sil Lum from Kuo Yu Cheong that you know is probably the extreme end of traditional northern kung fu in this regard. Variety is another issue, but in terms of numbers a famous Northern form such as Si Lu Zhaquan only has 5 kicks in it (and it’s a very long form) , whereas a famous southern form such as CLF’s Tuet Jin Kuen has 5 as well. Even shorthand forms such as Bak Mei’s Sup Chi Kuen have 6 kicks. Wing Chun Chum Kiu has 15!!!
Higher level forms such as CLF’s Fut Jeung have 17 kicks (and that’s without counting the concealed ones). This doesn’t even take into account the southern kicking styles such as Mok Gar, however this has a form known as 108 kicks (to be fair I have also seen this written as movements).
While I know and have seen northern sets that contain obscene amounts of kicking, but I’ve also seen southern forms that were similar in craziness. 
I have nothing against northern systems
My statement about the time it takes to learn or master northen kungfu is based on the average student/ practitioner. I don’t talk to “wing chun teachers” For those who wish to make accusations.
How ever i do stay in constant martial study. Northern kungfu because of the mountainous land in northen china rely on more kicking. Southern because of the flat landscape rely on lower stances and hand technique
SihingJow, you ever been to southern china? Plenty of mountains. Also, believe it or not, not everyone works in a rice paddy all day thus developing a strong horse stance (that’s not a dig at you, it’s just another of these theories bandied about). There are umpteen northern styles, and many of them place less emphasis on kicking than many southern styles (Bajiquan springs instantly to mind). To make wild generalisations about them based on limited observations and ill informed socio-geographical data (there’s masses of flat land in Northern China, as well as plenty of farms) is a pointless exercise. Now I know you are only repeating what many far more famous people than you have said before, but open your mind a little.
The Wing Chun thing comes from this 3 year story you’re perpetuating. This story exists solely because you can learn all the forms in Yip Man Fatshan lineage WC in 3 years. However A) the first two hand forms and the pole form are pretty mind numbingly basic B) knowing all the forms doesn’t mean you’re any good. If you show me a Wing Chun guy with 3 years training and a Ying Jow Pai guy with 8, I’ll show you a short hand guy in intensive care.
This story also ignores the other lineages of Wing Chun which have more forms. It’s also evolved. When I first heard it a decade ago it was 10 and 20 years 
Any respectable Sifu will tell you that it takes 8-10 years to get to a good standard of expertise, northern or southern. Of course if the Sifu had begun teaching after only 3 years…
Anyway, who on there right mind is going to try and kick or jump on a mountainside?
You’d fall straight over for sure. You’d also need strong stances to keep balance. If the land was nice and flat then you could have higher stances and move around more. Where do these stories start?:rolleyes:
Ben Gash,
It doesn’t take 10 years to learn wing chun unless you’re pghysically challenged. It is such a simple style - for starters they don’t move their feet and only flail their arms in cat figh slapping motion.
Good kung fu masters jump from rock to rock on a mountain side to surprise their opponents. Southern kung fu masters with tier low stance takes a long time to move up mountains or foot hills. Whereas, northern kung fu masters move at such high speeds and cover so much territory that the southern masters have no time to put together any form of co-ordinated defence. The trick is to move in small numbers at high speeds dominating the ground.
The southern kung fu master would just be sitting there and become still targets for very accurate flying kicks - like the tornado kick which can take down masses on advancing opponents.