Praise the lord, you hairy handed fiend! Ya will burn in the fires of hell where you will be joined by the likes of Asia Carrera, Kobe Tai, Jenna Jameson, Raylene and so on!! You might smile at this thought but you won’t see these ladies with your eyes as you’ll be blind from all that hairy handed activity!! Repent my sinner, praise the lord!
I hope you watch Asia Carrera for the educational value of her performances and not just to stare at her fangita.
oh please don’t burst my bubble , im developing my chi so i can make my meridien line generate heat and transfer it dan tien and then my iron palm will crush may enemy with my knowledge of dim mak
i t will take a life time but i will be a master just as long as i can keep paying my sifu and so on and so on and so on
he man good post , striaght out , the way it should be said and done,
if bruce promoted anything it was the elimination of styles cus they seperate man, and prevent knowledge . it’s all just body mechanics , and attributes , hard work and testing , all the mystical mumbo jumbo should be left in the shaw brothers movies with the deadly venoms ,
Bruce Lee’s public criticism of martial arts and combining martial arts into his own “system” was new to the West but nothing really new in China - Wang Xiang Zhai, to name but one, did these things before Bruce Lee.
bruce never claimed to be the first he just did it better by crossing racial barriers and introduceing western training aids , hell he was the first one to impliment circut training over 25 years ago ,
he had instinct and drive to test things in the face of the nay sayers
if i could only share the reels of 8mm training and seminars of him i have seen, you would see it in a different light ,
but d amn them law suits
What I don’t understand the most about uncle Bruce is that why he went back to Yip Man and asked for his wooden dummy teaching. Was he still hungry for some traditional, all secret, well hidden gems from the old man? Thought he never needed anything else from WC after JKD was found.
What I don’t understand the most about uncle Bruce is that why he went back to Yip Man and asked for his wooden dummy teaching. Was he still hungry for some traditional, all secret, well hidden gems from the old man?
I guess he might have thought YM might still have some info valuable to him. I would imagine you would have in his position. Did he ever say he has surpassed YM and thus YM had nothing to teach him? I think not.
Thought he never needed anything else from WC after JKD was found.
If that door were closed to him (and for what good reason? Would YOU have suffered gladly in BL’s position?), he might have had to seek other means to reach his goals. He didn’t “need” Yip Man’s “secret, well hidden gems”, he found ways to get by without them. The fact that he did manage quiet well without the “hidden teachings” must call their veracity, maybe even existence, into question.
William Cheung comes close to contending that BL had to develop JKD because he had only learned part of the “modified” YMWC system, which was of course deficient, but being the brilliant dude he was, managed to plug the holes with other stuff.
Ididn’t believe that either. More likely IMO is that the “secret, well hidden gems” JUST AREN’T THAT IMPORTANT.
thanks for your comments. I know some WCK people believe that their WC will come to a quantum leap forward after learning the wooden dummy. I was wondering if this was what uncle Bruce had in mind when he approached the old man. Perhaps he saw a barrier of some sort and he needed a guiding light … just perhaps.
i’d like to ask:in his films why didn’t bruce lee show any wing chun when he practices alone in say,way of the dragon?eg sil lim tao or tan sao etc?
god no ,
no forms but there was still chi sau but it was different in the sense that there was a lot more body mechanic and twist to the actions , very explosive he hathe ability drop people on the fiest action , he also incor[erated a lot of kicking and looked to be high low high , with full body change on the elevation, also i saw some over hands and hooks from boxing as he stepped off line , but most impressive was his foot work and timing when he was sparring he couls intercept and break rythem like no one i have ever seen the nearest would be roy jones the way he can just close the gap with pure timing and decetive footwork and angles , alot of the stuff he pulled off required a great deal of athletisim, not for the regular guy, in some situations his approach would be wrong or risky but he had the awarness to pull it off .
the lecture and depth of his understanding was also very impressive , he was always makeing sure that the individuals attributes were more important then anything else develop yourself as yourself was a quote i remember but the audio was bad .
What I don’t understand the most about uncle Bruce is that why he went back to Yip Man and asked for his wooden dummy teaching. Was he still hungry for some traditional, all secret, well hidden gems from the old man?
simple bruce kept the dummy training up into the end , and at that time he was still very much interested in wing chun , he evolved in the next few years . but after yip mans refusal he didn’t mention wing chun anymore ,
but get realistic tons of people have been taught those little gems and none have achieved any great skill so it’s not in the ‘‘gems’’ it’s in the individual and the appliccation and personal experience plus a commitment that brings achievement,
talking is easy doing that’s another thing all together .
Originally posted by Ernie simple bruce kept the dummy training up into the end , and at that time he was still very much interested in wing chun , he evolved in the next few years . but after yip mans refusal he didn’t mention wing chun anymore ,
what? skipping Bil Jee and jump into Wooden Dummy? then call it the end (just a joke )
but get realistic tons of people have been taught those little gems and none have achieved any great skill so it’s not in the ‘‘gems’’ it’s in the individual and the appliccation and personal experience plus a commitment that brings achievement,
talking is easy doing that’s another thing all together .
then why bother learning a dead set of wooden dummy drills?
bil jee that’s funny
how many people know bil jee in this world and still suck, like that’s spme great baarrier or acomplishment .
ooooooohhhhhhh run for the hills it’s the bil jee master .look out gracies look out shamrock bul je is in the house
that doesn’t even deserve a real responce .
the dummy is a training tool that is only as alive or dead as the person training on it .
you can frestyle it or follow a set pattern or break down a single action, he was a perfectionist and obsesive work out guy , he worked the dummy like it is supposed to be worked the never tireing training partner , a second coach , he was clever enough to redesighn the dummy for his size and power .
he thought out of the box ,
but golly gee if he only knew bil gee .
wait i know bil gee , i can rule the world thank you for enlightening me
ok guys , a few, jkd people, always, make a big deal, on how bruce, told sifu ted wong not to do dummy chi sau, this is no big deal, what they fail to realise, is bruce lee , went thourgh the basic training, understood when to use, sensativatey and he could, use what he had when he wanted to , i have always said all bruce did was box againist gung fu people, use wing chun againist karate people and boxers or street fighters remember using no way as way in taught in high level of bill jee, bill used olny for emergancy becuase it teaches to go outside what normal you would do i think bruce lee was very smart in what he did for his time peace russell sherry
wait i know bil gee , i can rule the world thank you for enlightening me
You know, there is a Chinese idiom, “With one good technique you can conquer the world.” Compare that to Bruce Lee’s training methods. And compare those to the current popular wisdom. With ten mediocre techniques, you can appear on cable television!
ken Preach on brother. We gotta hook up soon
i might be open this sat. thinking of getting together with andrew again after my regular class . pm me
censored You know, there is a Chinese idiom, “With one good technique you can conquer the world.” Compare that to Bruce Lee’s training methods
in the end bruce was narrowing it down to ane eye jab and a groin kick , but that one good technique fortune cookie stuff , only fly’s after you have been through a complete range of attribute developmwent and training experience , so you have developed the proper speed , timing ,distance , and so on to pull off that one good technique with any level of consistancy ,
and bruce was dead on about that . leave the old sayings for those that lack honest work and honest assesment of there individual strengths and weaknesses
no need to swim through all that cryptic dialogue , you work it test it and refine it , then you got it anything else should be left for the movies
My thanks to all your interesting posts. I like to draw your attention back to the original side question which Russell answered in part. It is what would you do if you have to fight against someone who is a skilled fighter? Would you stay still and wait for someone with Bruce Lee’s skills and calibers to move in attacking, or would you move around to distract his aims? What is your strategy in each case?
Okay, I just wish that there maybe such a thing as stonewall jackson in WC. You know like “be unmovable like a mountain”. Do you remember any classic samurai duels in Kurosawa movies? The samurai waited and stroke his sword of doom to the charging foes, etc.
to be that stable you need a active mind and experience in intercepting , or else your just a sitting duck , anyone with quicker initiation speed or better footwork will just pot shot you all day ,
there is no one way or one greater attribute .
true speed kills , but speed with out power and stability is lacking , power with out speed and timing will never reach the target .
you need all atribiutes well balanced to have true adaptability or else your a lop sided fighter
I like your answer. I still think it has something to do with the mind training - that uncanny calmness and the unclouded ability to divine the his intention unerringly.
