I would like to share a little experience with you guys.
About 6 ,months ago I started sparring regulary with some amatuer boxers from a local boxing gym.
I do kung fu and wanted to know how I would do against these guys, which led to an experience that I feel I am lucky to experience before it was too late.
The first time I sparred with these guys we wore head gear, groin guard and 12 ounce gloves.
The very first guy I sparred with, I tried to use what I learnt from kung fu and quite literally another guy watching said I got jab in the face about 30 times at will by the other guy.
At round two I threw several punches and all of a sudden I remember being on the floor with some guy giving me the count, I got up then saw a punch come and suddenly my head was all dizzy, the next thing I remebered was that some guy was helping me out from the ring to take a seat.
Within the next 6 months I sparred with about twelve other guys from that gym and out of that twelve all of them when I sparred with them knocked me down at least once.
Inaddition during those six months I practiced kung fu at home dilligently for an hour every morning and 3 hours after Uni and every time I tried to use the stances and punches from kung fu I just couldnt hit them not even once out of all those times I sparred with them.
Now ive taken up boxing for about five months and the funny thing is every time I box with these guys I never get knocked down not even once, Ive been hit badly but not knocked down.
But what I would like to ask you people out there with experience in all aspects of martial arts is this.
1: I feel like ive been disloyal to my kung fu school and my friends there for training with these other guys, but I just want to learn how to fight. I dont wanna be a figther or an instructor I just hope that I know how to fight so that when I have children I can teach them a few tricks and kung fu has not provided this for me as yet, because of our lack of sparring, is it wrong for going some where else to find this?
2: Some of my friends from kung fu have founded out that I have been sparring and training with other people and do not talk to me that much any more, they dont want me to come with them when there is a lion dance perfromance, and I feel that there is alot of animosity towards me because of this and I am thinking about quiting kung fu because I dont find it interesting anymore and I realistically dont see myself using any thing ive learnt in a fight, so im thinking about quiting, IS THIS THE RIGHT CHOICE?
3: How do you learn to actually hit some one in the head I dont want to sound brutal or arrogant but how I have no trouble in kung fu at hitting the bag or the focus mits right on the dot, but when I spar with these guys I cant touch them once with what I learnt?
I hope some of you guys out there dont think im saying that kung fu is crap, im not saying that, im just saying kung fu is not suited for me.
I just need a little advice from guy with experience.
Send your KF partners to hell, and take boxing classes. If you don’t try your KF techniques against a resisiting opponent, you’ll get killed next time.
If this is serious though, you need to be in a school that spars.There are many CMA schools that spar. Also, nothing is wrong with cross training, so there’s no need to feel disloyal.
im not a troll im being serious.
kung fu and boxing both put together are cheaper for me than one BJJ class I do boxing at a youth club that is goverment funded thats why it’s so cheap.
Serioulsy im not a troll.
Ohh ok you guys are talking about what I say at the bottom can’t I be a MMA fan that trains in kung fu?
Why is that so hard to believe?
Ohh ok you guys are talking about what I say at the bottom can’t I be a MMA fan that trains in kung fu?
Why is that so hard to believe? [/B]
That’s not hard to believe. many of us here are mma fans, and several of us also train bjj, boxing, etc. myself included. It could be unintentional, but your post doesn’t sound genuine, and your points 2 and 3 are hilarious, IMO.
If your kung fu training could not allow you to stay on your feet after being hit, however, you either need to
change schools
train harder
find out why you don’t spar. It could be because you’ve only been training 6 months.
One thing about sparring, is doing 2 man sets.
over and OVER. it must be built into your muscle calculations
its quite funny because i used shaolin techniques and eventually they just kick in naturally, not like the form itself but like sa imiliar movement. people said, ahhaha i can hit you, and my natural reaction got them in a split second.
i got one thing to say
when you havee to think about it, it won’t work.
when it becomes a thoughtless process, you are THERE. thats discipline.
and another thing, gloves in boxing.. is not kung fu.
our forms are not meant to be done with huge overblwon hands.
therefore it would be difficult for us to change tactics.
boxing is a sport, there are rules..real kung fu ther earen’t.
Then use mma gloves. then you can do palm changes, strikes and anything else you want to do. Real kung fu isn’t a sport, but you you practice full force eye gouges? what about full force groin strikes? a full force leopard’s paw to the throat? Nope. One of the main advantages of the sport is that it allows you to fully practice your techniques fairly safely. That’s a big plus, as it allows you to find out what you can really do and what you can’t. what you need to work on, etc.
Has anybody bothered to check this trolls profile yet?
Birthday March 3, 1980
What’s your MA style? MMA
How long have you trained? 5 years Biography Tito Ortiz is an MMA god I worship him
Location Huntington Beach, California, USA
Interests Bashing BS black belts
Occupation Unemployed
Give Phisker a break it doesn’t sound like a troll question to me, people are all to quick to call another a troll because they say something contraversial.
Phisker, my advice is this: Boxing is a good art in itself and theres no doubt it will improve your punching skills and accuracy, but you have to remember that boxing sparring is formatized it is not a real fight! Because these guys managed to pound you in the ring when you first went along doesn’t mean that they could have if it were a no rules street fight. Boxing will get you fit and improve your chances in a fight but it would need to be crossed trained with other methods to be fully rounded.
As for you kung fu club (what system is it by the way?) I think you should quit and go else where, if they are so blinkered as to not allow one of their own to go and try to better himself by practicing things that they are lacking then you don’t need them.
Theres too much of this BS in the martial arts of people finding a system they are happy with and then scorning anyone else for wanting something different…Go get yourself a more open minded
Kung fu club and keep up your boxing!
By the way I’d scrub the BS black belt bit from your profile that is a bit troll like..you ain’t gonna win any friends like that.
Originally posted by SifuAbel
[B]Has anybody bothered to check this trolls profile yet?
Birthday March 3, 1980
What’s your MA style? MMA
How long have you trained? 5 years Biography Tito Ortiz is an MMA god I worship him
Location Huntington Beach, California, USA
Interests Bashing BS black belts
Occupation Unemployed [/B]
ROFL, no I didn’t check. Just knew his post struck me as suspect.
