I am 110% for clonning and it’s vast medical applications and the biological manipulations of genetic research in an effort to increase our knowledge of science and our way of life.
What I am not for are those people who try to ban and put a hinder to science only because of their own mythological and selfish viewpoints as based on their religion.
Even though I like President Bush a good deal and I think he is handling the war on terrorism with great determination and focus I do not follow his belief to ban clonning because it is “morally wrong”.
On who’s morals, what guiding factor, the guiding factor of religion of course.
Anyone want to chip in with their viewpoints and of the attempt to ban or slow down private clonning research because of these morals.
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What we really need is chicks with a whole new kinda orifice - Fish
Sharky, I should expect this level of immaturity from you after seeing your post titled “Hm.” regarding the woman that lives next door to you. I think everyone who unfortuneatly read that post is a bit more ignorant now for doing so. - Spectre
All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.
Go to afganistan. Children are starving, go to Ruwanda, don’t pay a billion dollars making a ******* test tube baby.
Unless of course you can make nazi supermen, then train them to kill the 3rd world kids and make a race of strong, smart, superhumans that are devoid of emotions, roaming the EARTH WITHOUT SOULS. Or keep the souls and make superhumans, freaks and make the X-Men.
“We shouldn’t as a society grow life to destroy it,” said President Bush.
well folks, looks like photosynthesis is our only option. Grow carrots to destroy them? Not in the USA. Feed pigs, just to kill them? Not in this country.
Luckilly I live in the North pole, which is divided up on ownership, but there are no cops, so I eat polar bears and elves if I feel like it.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=“-1”>quote:</font><HR> Yes, we could clone all the former martial arts masters [/quote]
They would still have to be taught like anybody else.
We are talking about 30 cells, not a formed fetus. People hear the “Embryo” catchword and think that it is a formed human. These cells have the potential for curing a multitude of conditions. Imagine a heart transplant using a heart grown from your own tissue. Perhaps that heart can grow along inside, the old heart is then later removed. That means that when most of you out there reach the age of dementia, you will be aided by what we do today. Grandma and grandpa can take care of themselves instead of being in a home. They at least will be able to feed and tend for themselves. They can remain active and sane members of the family for a longer period. Which, is the #1 complaint that results in institutional care. Healthcare cost would be reduced significantly. Spinal tissue patients will be able to regain mobility. We could make quadroplegia a thing of the past. Imagine stephen hawking getting out of his chair and talking to you with his mouth. CP, MS, MD, Alzhiemers etc. would just about dissappear. Ç
I think I’m a clone now, doesn’t seem to be anyone else around…
I think cloning scares people for a lot of reasons. It would be that they think they will no longer be unique. Maybe they are afraid we will grow people to harvest their organs. Then the questions of does the clone deserve to live, does it have a will, a soul, etc. Some people may fear we are playing “god” and pushing things too far and such.
there are still some moral implications to this whole thing.
While life - what we recognize as human life - may not exist within the embryo, this is the first step to creating Nieche’s (sp) “Superman”. This technology can only be misused by a family (or corporation?) who wants a 6’6" blond hair, blue eyed MAN, capable of warding off cancers and any other life-threatening diseases, and living to be 150 years old or more.
Why should such a creature exist at all?This “Superman” had no need for gods, or “man” - meaning normal man. Those who did not fit the mold of the superman could be exiled or executed - read Brave New World, then talk to me about being 110% behind cloning. This creature could be trained to follow orders, set by whomever created it - Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein anyone?
This is a man who, as “Santa Claus” put it, would be a souless creature walking the earth, with no need for anyone or anything but his/her own needs. There are enough of these people walking the earth right now, we don’t need to be in the business of creating more.
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“I’ll be too busy lookin’ good!”
=The Uebermensch described in Also Sprach Zarathustra has absolutely nothing to do with physical characteristics.
The whole Nietzche-Nazi connection was made by Nietzche’s sister, a bitter old spinster, who had close ties to Hitler, who made her feel important. Nietzche was dead at that time.
If you want to attack Nietzche do it for a good reason, like his views on women.
Merciless is Mercy.
[This message was edited by Daniel Madar on 11-27-01 at 05:16 PM.]
I have yet to see a reasonable, logical moral objection to human cloning. Of course human cloning can be used for selfish purposes, but so can nearly any other kind of technological advance. Just because it’s possible to clone hitler doesn’t mean it’ll happen. And cloning has countless potential benefits for medical advancement.
The only objections I’ve ever seen to cloning are almost invariably come from people worried about the technology falling down a slippery slope until it is grossly misused, something that doesn’t have to happen.
By the way, blackjack, where the hell have you been? I haven’t seen any of your posts in a while.
This technology can only be misused by a family (or corporation?) who wants a 6’6" blond hair, blue eyed MAN, capable of warding off cancers and any other life-threatening diseases, and living to be 150 years old or more.
Interesting note: Blue eyes and Blonde hair are recessive genes.
Don’t read this next part unless you believe in evolution
Seems like the farther away we got from Africa, there must have been some inbreeding or something to bring out all these recessive traits in Northern Europeans and stuff. I say this with my German ancestory… ewwwwwwww, my great-great-x200-great grandparents might have been brother and sister. EWWWWW!!!
