lol…did you offer the correct spelling?
You didn’t, why should I?
“it’s not the size, but how you use it.” While it’s true, “size does matter.” 
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1162218]“it’s not the size, but how you use it.” While it’s true, “size does matter.” ;)[/QUOTE]
I was talking about biceps, of course.
cooridation spelling
coordination is the correct spelling silly man…
now im back to my misspelled words…enugh of your tom fololery!
[QUOTE=anerlich;1162170]I don’t have ANY cooridation (he spelt it wrong the same way twice!) so it’s a safe bet any opponent who doesn’t do wing chun will have at least as much of it as me.
Does cooridation have something to do with American beer?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=anerlich;1162170]
Does cooridation have something to do with American beer?[/QUOTE]
Yes. It’s a special technique used in the brewing process.
WC is totally effective , if you let it be .
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1161496]I sometimes get totally frustrated, when people claims WC is ineffective.
The thing is, learning WC is like learning to drive and getting your driver’s liscence; of course, one needs to learn the road rules and adhere to to them. Otherwise you will not pass the driving test.
However, if one wants to be a race/stunt car driver, one needs to take the basic driving skills beyond the “learners” road rules and adapt it and apply it to the type of driving, and the type of roads you want.
Unfortunately, too many “experts” still doing WC like little old lady drivers; and when someone drives their WC like racing drivers, these little old ladies claim they are not driving safely/properly.
WC is not ineffective. It’s the little old lady drivers that’s ineffective
Sorry for the ranting.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you .
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1162158]Im simply saying real skill derives from strength, power, speed, flexibility, timing, cooridation, stamina and accuracy and preceision. [/QUOTE]
you don’t say anything ‘simply’, and surely not with that spelling.. :rolleyes:
You also said something else, that you ignored when I asked you to clarify:
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1162158]Most people who do WC only do apart of it…meaning they only have shell of the WC…[/QUOTE]
what did you base this ‘fact’ on? Or are you just sitting next to your big ol 55 gallon garbage in your kitchen and pulling out this trash as you go?
what was your question???
as for fact…
im sharing mostly opinion from what i see and hear most WC people!!!
[QUOTE=JPinAZ;1162328]you don’t say anything ‘simply’, and surely not with that spelling.. :rolleyes:
You also said something else, that you ignored when I asked you to clarify:
what did you base this ‘fact’ on? Or are you just sitting next to your big ol 55 gallon garbage in your kitchen and pulling out this trash as you go? ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1161496]I sometimes get totally frustrated, when people claims WC is ineffective.
…
Sorry for the ranting.[/QUOTE]
For a style to be respected by the fighting community, it must achieve the following:
[list=1]
If you cannot show yourself or point to others achieving numbers 1 or 2 above, then you are just another ranting number 3.
Simple solution: Fight them.
If you lose, they are right.
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1162747]For a style to be respected by the fighting community, it must achieve the following:
[list=1]
If you cannot show yourself or point to others achieving numbers 1 or 2 above, then you are just another ranting number 3.
Simple solution: Fight them.
If you lose, they are right.[/QUOTE]
That’s just crazy talk and just because the pioneers of WC, the likes of WSL and others, did just that doesn’t make that kind of talk less crazy !!
Lets chi sao !
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1162747]
Simple solution: Fight them.[/QUOTE]
I’m not a thug, and I’m not a monkey.
But if anyone genuinely wants to test the effectiveness of WC I’m always ready.
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1163200]I’m not a thug, and I’m not a monkey.[/quote]
And yet, other people’s opinions which differ from yours leave you “totally frustrated”. As for what else you are, your first post in this thread made it clear you currently are a ranting number three in the aforementioned list I posted.
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1163200]But if anyone genuinely wants to test the effectiveness of WC I’m always ready.[/QUOTE]
If your style is an effective method of learning to fight, then you and/or your students may want to do a little of it. Since you state you are “always ready” to test your fighting effectiveness and the website you promote in your signature mentions your teachings can be applied to sport fighting scenarios, then presumably it would be a simple matter to provide independent evidence previously collected of numbers one and/or two in the aforementioned list.
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1163398]And yet, other people’s opinions which differ from yours leave you “totally frustrated”. As for what else you are, your first post in this thread made it clear you currently are a ranting number three in the aforementioned list I posted.[/QUOTE]
WhatEVER:rolleyes:
The only flaw to your statement is that just because you loose a fight to someone doesn’t mean they are right?
I sure the gracies have lost some fights to people. Does that make them wrong?
Even Mike Tyson has lost a fight…does that make him wrong?
The issue is not the style or system of fighting you use. Its not even the effectiveness of a given fighting art. It all boils down to the skill level of the one using the style.
If someone has a crappy martial art system. But their skill level is higher than everyone else they fight…That bull crap fighting system they use will work for them. Not because of the style. But because of them.
They have superior strength,stamina, agility, speed, timing, power and accuracy and percision in advoiding getting hit while landing hits on the other person.
A person who is more skilled will when the fight…not a person with a superior martial art or superior training?
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1162747]For a style to be respected by the fighting community, it must achieve the following:
[list=1]
If you cannot show yourself or point to others achieving numbers 1 or 2 above, then you are just another ranting number 3.
Simple solution: Fight them.
If you lose, they are right.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;1163445]The only flaw to your statement is that just because you loose a fight to someone doesn’t mean they are right?[/QUOTE]
So, you’re waiting on foot at an intersection for the light to change and the traffic to stop moving. Right after, you step off the curb. Suddenly a car comes barreling down the avenue headed straight for you. It runs you over and continues off, out of sight.
Question: Did you have the right of way?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You’re dead.
So, you’re whining about how the style of martial art you practice doesn’t get respect from the fighting community. You cannot point to sufficient independent proof that the style is, indeed, effective. And when you personally fight, you lose.
Question: Is your style effective?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You lost.
One thing is certain after you lose a fight: It’s time for you and your style to shut up. Tough luck, too bad. Stop being such a d@rk.
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1163419]WhatEVER:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by your response. Are you saying you cannot provide independent proof, or are you saying your website makes an inaccurate claim regarding the teachings at your school being applicable to a sport fighting context?
Just saying Hi
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1162747]For a style to be respected by the fighting community, it must achieve the following:
[list=1]
If you cannot show yourself or point to others achieving numbers 1 or 2 above, then you are just another ranting number 3.
Simple solution: Fight them.
If you lose, they are right.[/QUOTE]
Hi Tom. Nice to see a familiar name after being away for so long. Hope life is good. Give my best to William and family.
Question: Is your style effective?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You lost.
And done
The ideology is you win some and you loose you some…There are numerous videos of WC loosing to guys of other styles…Does that mean forget WC an learn how to kickbox or muay thai or mma? No…it simply means you need more practice so your skill level will be higher!
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1163525]So, you’re waiting on foot at an intersection for the light to change and the traffic to stop moving. Right after, you step off the curb. Suddenly a car comes barreling down the avenue headed straight for you. It runs you over and continues off, out of sight.
Question: Did you have the right of way?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You’re dead.
So, you’re whining about how the style of martial art you practice doesn’t get respect from the fighting community. You cannot point to sufficient independent proof that the style is, indeed, effective. And when you personally fight, you lose.
Question: Is your style effective?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You lost.
One thing is certain after you lose a fight: It’s time for you and your style to shut up. Tough luck, too bad. Stop being such a d@rk.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by your response. Are you saying you cannot provide independent proof, or are you saying your website makes an inaccurate claim regarding the teachings at your school being applicable to a sport fighting context?[/QUOTE]
[quote=tom kagan;1163525]so, you’re waiting on foot at an intersection for the light to change and the traffic to stop moving. Right after, you step off the curb. Suddenly a car comes barreling down the avenue headed straight for you. It runs you over and continues off, out of sight.
Question: Did you have the right of way?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You’re dead.
So, you’re whining about how the style of martial art you practice doesn’t get respect from the fighting community. You cannot point to sufficient independent proof that the style is, indeed, effective. And when you personally fight, you lose.
Question: Is your style effective?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You lost.
One thing is certain after you lose a fight: It’s time for you and your style to shut up. Tough luck, too bad. Stop being such a d@rk.
I’m not sure i understand what you mean by your response. Are you saying you cannot provide independent proof, or are you saying your website makes an inaccurate claim regarding the teachings at your school being applicable to a sport fighting context?[/quote]
lmfao :d:d:d
[QUOTE=Tom Kagan;1163525]So, you’re waiting on foot at an intersection for the light to change and the traffic to stop moving. Right after, you step off the curb. Suddenly a car comes barreling down the avenue headed straight for you. It runs you over and continues off, out of sight.
Question: Did you have the right of way?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You’re dead.
So, you’re whining about how the style of martial art you practice doesn’t get respect from the fighting community. You cannot point to sufficient independent proof that the style is, indeed, effective. And when you personally fight, you lose.
Question: Is your style effective?
Answer: Who the f@ck cares? You lost.
One thing is certain after you lose a fight: It’s time for you and your style to shut up. Tough luck, too bad. Stop being such a d@rk.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean by your response. Are you saying you cannot provide independent proof, or are you saying your website makes an inaccurate claim regarding the teachings at your school being applicable to a sport fighting context?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes Kagan is one funny mofo. Love it. All that moderation over at Bullshido must have rubbed off.