Value of Fuk Sao?

How many fuk saos are in your SLT?

Fuk Sao

There are three in TWC. The Fuk Sao is patterned after the paw of a fox/canine. The reason I’m saying this is because most WC people do a fuk sao with the bottom of the hand parallel to the floor. The fingers should point downwards at a 45 degree angle. Now I’m waiting for the rebuttles after this statement. Anyone with a dog/canine should watch the the way their dog holds its paws. I see this on a daily basis since I live with 4 Pitbulls.

Phil

Rebuttals? No need. Each to his own.

how many people do 2 fuk sao’s? How many do 3 fuk sao’s?

I do three.

So do the other 20 or 30 people in my class…take it you’re only trying to count the number of people who use this site though:D

i do three on each side

what about the other arm?

you guys train both sides, right?

A total of 6. Which would be three on each arm or side.

There are 3 each side. The section is called Sun Pai Fat - 3 palms to buddha.

Sharky

Is that La Bi Xiao Xin?

Sharky

Although I’m not contesting the number of fuksaos you do, however wouldn’t that make the Sam Baai Fat inaccurate?..with 3 fuk sao’s you are making 4 wusaos (the praying Hand). Any thoughts?

Or perhaps the ‘Three prayers’ refer to Tan, Wu, and Fuk Sau!

Dzu

the dog theory?

Rebuttals? No need. Each to his own. I agree, but when did dogs ever become a part of the wing chun system. and when a dog puts its paw out its begging not defending itself.

Interesting analogy with the Fox’s paw. Phil, more importantly, how do you hold the wrist when performing the technique in combat? Maybe angle the meaty part of your arm into the incoming force?

-FJ

“Although I’m not contesting the number of fuksaos you do, however wouldn’t that make the Sam Baai Fat inaccurate?..with 3 fuk sao’s you are making 4 wusaos (the praying Hand). Any thoughts?”

I don’t know man, can you shed any light on this?

I am just mindlessly regurgitating what i have been taught mate :slight_smile:

Perhaps

the section starts when the first fuk sau goes out? Or perhaps it refers to the number of fuks in some way? Or are you smugly trying to tell me i have the translation wrong? :slight_smile:

I love wing chun, heh

I do 3 fuks, 4 wusaus. that is interesting about fuk being patterned after a fox, fist I’ve heard of it. but to be honest, if dogs had wrists htat could twist sideways, they might do their fuks with their wrists sideways too. fuksau is just an idea of inside sensitivity, so I don’t see why anyone should be surprised to find that it looks different when a person does it than when a dog does it. to be honest our bodies are probably better equipped to do it than theirs are, fighting a dog with a muzzle on it’s mouth doesn’t sound too hard to me. no offense, not saying the way you do it is wrong, but it bugs mewhen I always hear “well I of course do it the right way, cause blah blah blah . . .” over something as petty as this. if you really want to find out how it works the best, spend a few hours of chisau expirimenting which way seems to work more effectively, and then tell us what you found. don’t just preach your right cause your dog does it.

fuk is a movement of the crane

Dogs strike when they fight. The also use a paw on the back of the opponents neck to hold him down. Since the ideogram for fuk sao is a man restraining a dog maybe there is something to what Mr. Redmond says. Or out of general arrogance and *****iness we can just shout down any opposing opinions…

The Wing Chun I practice has the antics of, Snake, Crane, and Fox. Other WC sifus/lineages will concur. The fuk sao is a fox’s paw according to my teachings.

Kuen-
You are right. When our pittbulls play I noticed that they will do a fuk sao like position to control the other dogs movement.

bobrock-
Canines; Foxes, Wolves, Dogs, et. use this position when fighting.
Also, as Kuen says. The Chinese character for fuk is a combination of the the character for man and dog.

fa_jing-

>>Interesting analogy with the Fox’s paw. Phil, more importantly, how do you hold the wrist when performing the technique in combat? Maybe angle the meaty part of your arm into the incoming force? <<

Cierto, that is the way that I learned it.
Paz